Add in the Heat Pumps that we will all have to run ?! We are going to be relying on leccy for everything !
First electric car experience
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neil_merseyside
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She could change jobs, a big probably costly change, but you seem to expect everyone else to make changes...
I want to go up to 170 miles to several destinations, I can't charge at the destination(s) so ~350 round trip. I really don't want to spend more time travelling to find a vacant/working/compatible charger to sit round for half an hour [1]as I have motorways to do that on. I can't scrap a good car, then commission another that uses more resources - and some of the resources being of questionably provenance.
[1] My current vehicle can do 800 miles between the 10 minutes it takes to fill it up, how long in total does it take to charge your BEV for 800 mile use?
cougie uk
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Hang on. You want me to scrap my EV ?
Our car charges overnight on the drive. We don't need to bother making trips to the petrol station and pumping petrol in the cold.
And it's not me wanting you to make changes. It's your Government. Go take this up with Johnson and co. I'm just pointing out that EVs will work for most people.
Tesla however are moving to LiFePo for profit, and it looks like Model 3/Y pricing is going up again!!
https://electrek.co/2021/10/22/tesla-hikes-model-3-model-y-prices-again-deliveries-slip/
A win for everyone then, Tesla make more profit, the customers get safer and longer lasting batteries.
Higher price and worse technology spun to make it sound like a win for the consumer?....you should become a politician
.We've got a 40kW Leaf. Summer range is 150 miles, winter 100 miles comfortably. It's all depends how you drive the car, my wife drives fast and can easily return with less than 50 miles left from a 70 mile journey. Eg she burns 100 mile range from 70 mile journey
I can on the other hand can match range to distance travelled.
Our leaf is used for school run and local shopping. We are both work from home so we just plug it back in an top up during the day for any driving in the afternoon. We have some 70k miles from 2018 model
I can on the other hand can match range to distance travelled.
Our leaf is used for school run and local shopping. We are both work from home so we just plug it back in an top up during the day for any driving in the afternoon. We have some 70k miles from 2018 model
Only for cross country trips. The actual process is, Open Google maps, select destination. Share route with car. Car works out any stops and for how long, job done.
Time 30 seconds
You won't see my wife doing that, infact, you wont see her for the blurred flash as she passes you
Tell me start point and destination I'll look at the options. Driving 150 miles is roughly 3 hours of driving time. A break is required for safety reason alone.
If you are stopping at your destination for a period of hours, then plugging into a wall socket will still give you 6-8miles per hour charge.
Just build some Nuclear Power stations
That's the selfish option. Nuclear is insanely expensive, I don't think anyone has ever made it work without government subsidies.
Then you get 30-40 years of electricity and leave your descendants with a 1000 year clean up bill.
neil_merseyside
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I can't charge at the destination as it's on street and nowhere near a socket. Nor do I want to waste more time sitting for 30minutes whatever while it recharges, assuming a charger is available and of the correct type.
Driving 3 hrs without a break is fine[1], my car would alert me if I was losing concentration in any case[2] [3]
[1] Bladder capacity/alertness is the limit I use, 3hrs is about right for my dog, my wife is fine for a good bit longer bladder wise (and sleeps more than the dog so always fresh to go), me I'm undoubtedly probably getting to the age where my bladder might limit me, my concentration is still fine [2]. BITD I drove all day with only a short fuel break of maybe 20mins, that's human or vehicle fuel, usually doing both in any case.
[2] Those little ear dangly monitors work well for most people, I did check my first one wasn't broken, my car nags my wife to take a break now just like the ear dangly did 😄.
[3] Do tell the DSA that 3 hours is too much, especially for LGV's as they are driving huge kinetic energy weapons, but you'd think they'd follow stats on concentration though.
The advice for professional truckers is
45 minutes break after 4.5 hours driving
After a period of no more than 4.5 hours of driving you must immediately take a break of at least 45 minutes unless you are taking a rest period instead. The driving period can be continuous, or made up of shorter periods totalling 4 hours 30 minutes.
A break can be split into two periods (these are known as split breaks) the first break period being a minimum of 15 minutes and the following break a minimum of 30 minutes. These breaks must be completed after 4.5 hours driving.
Breaks of less than 15 minutes would not qualify as breaks, however they wouldn’t be classed as driving time either. The EU driver’s rules and regulations state that only split breaks that show the secondary period being 30 minutes or over will be allowed.
There are further requirements for trucker drivers to limit overall hours per day, week and bi weekly. So it seems even conditioned long haul drivers are not allowed to go beyond 4.5 hours.
Yet I see poor driving standards from truckers all the time-so 4.5 hours seems excessive with poor levels of attention/concentration
Personally 2.5 hours is plenty for me.
neil_merseyside
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I knew all of that, it being part of the spiel for a licence I hold. Perhaps self selection has a role? So me and most other of us knuckle draggers (I think we're called?) are better than most motorists (being tested x2-3 more) I concede a driver (not a car operator/motorist) also knows their limits, but most motorists have no clue.
An ordinary motorist (licence holder, but no skill) is the most dangerous beast as they have a lot of kinetic energy, bad bike riders are equally risky but generally only to themselves and vehicle paintwork.
Don't get me started on the IAM crew (been there, never again) who are just selfish...
