First electric car experience

[Pale Rider]

Normal service is resumed! You're completely wrong.

'Completely wrong' is a misrepresentation of your link.

It concedes the environmental impact of battery production is at least uncertain.

Child labour and generally poor working conditions at the point of mining has no environmental impact, but is just as undesirable as carbon emissions.

 

[Rocky]

I'm in total agreement about these unnecessary electrical devices. My starting handle has never let me down......who needs a starter motor?

 

[Pale Rider]

At the garage we used the starting handle for the hack Minor pick up for several months until a suitable (customer replacement) battery became available.

Minors have electric fuel pumps so it started first crank every time.

It only took a few seconds, so was hardly any more inconvenient than the self starter.

 

[simongt]

It'll make the roads safer for everyone.

A car is only as safe as the attitude of the driver of said car.

 

[cougie uk]

A car is only as safe as the attitude of the driver of said car.

True but safety systems that auto brake for example when they detect someone in the way is a help.

 

[simongt]

True but safety systems that auto brake for example when they detect someone in the way is a help.

Agree, although any safety system has to be properly maintained to work efficiently. Can we honestly say that EVERYONE has their car fully and correctly maintained - ?
Just saying - !

 

[icowden]

Agree, although any safety system has to be properly maintained to work efficiently. Can we honestly say that EVERYONE has their car fully and correctly maintained - ?

Well, it's supposed to have an MOT in the UK. Beyond that the power of the Tesla AI *should* be such that the AI knows if there is a problem with the car before you do.

 

[simongt]

it's supposed to have an MOT in the UK

An MOT is only a test of the condition of the vehicle at the time of the test. Said vehicle can fail an MOT an hour later. It also depends on the integrity of the testing station. Many of us have known of a testing station who will pass a car for a 'favour'.

 

[icowden]

An MOT is only a test of the condition of the vehicle at the time of the test. Said vehicle can fail an MOT an hour later. It also depends on the integrity of the testing station. Many of us have known of a testing station who will pass a car for a 'favour'.

Whilst that is true, it is still a reasonable test that means the majority of cars will be in a reasonably safe condition. All systems have outliers.

 

[nickyboy]

Paley. Bad news. I completely agree with you.

However, to many fresh faced millennials, satnav screen, parking cameras, Bluetooth integration and all that bollox seem, mystifyingly, vital.




Normal service is resumed! You're completely wrong.

https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-how-electric-vehicles-help-to-tackle-climate-change

I'm far from being a Millennial, but I regard satnav, parking cameras, bluetooth and plenty of other stuff as essential and if a car doesn't have them I won't buy it. They make driving easier and more enjoyable

FWIW, I'm about to press the button on a PHEV. Very few EVs in the size of vehicle I want and my driving requirements mean that 90% of the mileage will be electric only anyway and the hybrid aspect takes the stress out of family holiday road trips etc

 

[roubaixtuesday]

FWIW, I'm about to press the button on a PHEV. Very few EVs in the size of vehicle I want and my driving requirements mean that 90% of the mileage will be electric only anyway and the hybrid aspect takes the stress out of family holiday road trips etc

Was contemplating options like this a while back, but mileage on electric seemed so low as to be not worthwhile - 30 miles runs a bell. What's the electric mileage these days? Our car may need replacement before too long...

 

[CXRAndy]

I think the battery range of all electric cars is still quite iffy. What they say you get and the reality are quite different. They're claims are based on very strict controlled parameters that are nigh on impossible to achieve in real life . I did hear within the last couple of days that the differance is up to a third of what they claim to achieve.

Glad to hear the experience of actually driving one is good though.

We have 3 electric cars in the family, Nissan Leaf and Tesla s.

The Nissan quoted 170 summer miles and 120 winter miles. We get comfortable 150 summer and 100 miles winter. The Teslas do within 20 miles their maximum rated around 300 miles. Teslas can be pre heated before journeys in winter cancelling winter loss of range.

The use of heating has a small detriment to range, not massively. The Nissan drops about 6 miles of overall range.

We got the Nissan 3.5 years ago, its used everyday, upto 150miles. We have only one instance of range issue, this was in the first month of ownership. We are knocking on 70K miles now. Only 1 set of tyres recently changed in that time. Nothing else to pay

 

[CXRAndy]

Some Teslas are already doing 2.5 second 0 to 60. Instant full torque from standing start.

I'm sure I've seen some Tesla 9 second 1/4 mile runs.

Amazing really!.

Standard Tesla will do 0-60 between 3.7-4.3 seconds. The performance models are about 0.5 faster than standard.

The new Plaid model S with 1000hp triple motors 0-60 1.99 seconds and 9.1 1/4 mile.

 

[CXRAndy]

Noting to do with filling a tank mentality. Everything to do with needed to sometimes do trips that would be in excess of the range. In an ideal world I would never need to venture further than 100 miles from home by car but sadly this is not always the case.

But in reality 100+ journeys are quite rare for the vast majority of journeys.

95% of all western civilization is around 35miles per day driving-even the USA.

Charging networks are located in convenient locations, especially Tesla.

 

[CXRAndy]

We've got a petrol car too which we'll be keeping, along with a Diesel van. It will be interesting to see how often I start using the Tesla on longer drives though, I suspect it will be a more pleasant environment than even my wife's Arteon but we shall see I've got a bit of a wait until I can find out as yet

You quickly adapt, by stopping to charge and eat at those points. We have done 1000mile journeys and it was a breeze using Tesla's charger network. Just stick in your destination let Tesla workout all the points where and how long to stop. You will surprised that some stops are really short, because the car rapidly charges in the early part, so Tesla sometimes recommend like 15mins charges. Its quicker to have two or three short charges than one full charge