First electric car experience

[keithmac]

There's some cars calling themselves hybrids where they just have an extra 12v battery just to get the car moving. What's the point of that ?

Because they as still classed as an EV and can get into the lower tax bands. Same as those that will only do 20 miles on a charge, absolutely useless just basically a tax dodge.

I could see us with an EV at some point for normal daily duties and just keep our Diesel Kuga for towing/ holidays. Tesla would be 1st choice but they are a bit spendy (you get what you pay for I suppose!.).

 

[cyberknight]

Is this what they call "mild" hybrids ?

 

[MrGrumpy]

I read something about those type of hybrids over heat batteries when towing? That’s the ones with the bigger batteries ! Not the small 2 mile range ones.

Because they as still classed as an EV and can get into the lower tax bands. Same as those that will only do 20 miles on a charge, absolutely useless just basically a tax dodge.

I could see us with an EV at some point for normal daily duties and just keep our Diesel Kuga for towing/ holidays. Tesla would be 1st choice but they are a bit spendy (you get what you pay for I suppose!.).

Similar here keep the tree killer disco for now and maybe in the future swap out the E Class Cabriolet… btw Tesla’s seem to get all the press but if I’m honest they don’t do anything for me. There will be nicer cars out there in a few years I’m sure once all are on board. Range anxiety is the issue and it’s been done to death in this convo but it’s a fact that needs to be over come .

 

[gzoom]

There will be nicer cars out there in a few years I’m sure once all are on board.

It depends on what you want from a 'car'. The days when cars are just wheels with an engine I suspect is coming to an end very quickly, similar to the idea a mobile phone is designed to just make phone calls.

The amount of $$$$$$$ Tesla on computing hardware and software is giving the likes of IBM, Nvidia, Google a run for their money let alone any established car brands.

https://www.networkworld.com/article/3631502/are-tesla-s-dojo-supercomputer-claims-valid.html

Tesla a tech company that happens to make cars, Elon Musk made his first million in tech not manufacturing. Their USP will always be the use of digital data in the cars. There isn't another car manufacturer who is close to Tesla interms of digital/computer interoperability.

But make no mistake Tesla's approach to development is much higher risk than any one else. For example even the software required to run their new Supercomputer isn't written yet, and there are debates on if current software even has the ability to control/manage the distributed computer power Dojo hardware will offer!!

Its the ultimate 'Go big or go home' apporach they have used almost since day 1......Its certainly an approach most CEOs will have nightmares about even as a draft strategy plan, let alone one you bet your entire company on time and time again.

 

[Sittingduck]

Ok I am sold, Tesla is the way to go - now who’s having a whip round to stump up the 48k I need to buy one?
not eligible for a company car scheme any more and even when I was Tesla was not available in my bracket…

 

[FishFright]

It's good to hear from a nice mix of EV etc owners and their real world experience. Less so from those who have opinions and google .

A couple of my friends who are both petrolheads and classic car owners will be getting EV's next as that's where the fun will be as well as the the tax breaks.

Myself I won't be buying and EV or ICE because I don't do cars but if I do it would have to be an EV going on what all the owners have said.

 

[CXRAndy]

There will be nicer cars out there in a few years I’m sure once all are on board

Im sure there will. But its going to have be bloody good

The model 3 is a fantastic vehicle. It handles like a top class sports car, accelerates fast as a hyper car, has virtually no service and over the air firmware updates- without ever needing to go to a dealer.

Has 300+ range

The Tesla supercharger network-absolutely fantastic, as is the app.

The seats are so nice to sit in.

If you like minimalist the Tesla is that. The outside looks are OK. My model S is nicer looking

There are no other manufacturers who can match all that currently for the price. You need to go much higher to Porsche/Audi to get anywhere near in features, but you will be paying another £40-50k ontop of a model 3

Legacy ICE companies cant figure how Tesla make such a good car for the price they sell it. Its because its a tech company that makes cars.

Oh and they land rockets on platform in the sea too.

Im all for Tesla, because its driven the others to chase. EV is here and the Osbourne effect will accelerate the take up

 

[icowden]

The model 3 is a fantastic vehicle. It handles like a top class sports car, accelerates fast as a hyper car, has virtually no service and over the air firmware updates- without ever needing to go to a dealer.

I'm hoping that the Model Y is going to be available soon as I think I'll need the space.

 

[gzoom]

Ok I am sold, Tesla is the way to go - now who’s having a whip round to stump up the 48k I need to buy one?

Whilst you are at it, see if you can collect enough for me to get a Taycan too .

What interesting to see if how a 8 year Model S with 170K miles on the battery compares with brand new EVs today......Frankly its embarrassing that pretty every other brand new EV on sale today barely beats/matches a 2013 Model S for range at M-way speeds. By the time those cars have 100K miles on the battery the 2013 Model S will have MORE range.

The current Model 3/Y are another generation ahead.

 

[gzoom]

I'm hoping that the Model Y is going to be available soon as I think I'll need the space.

RHD Ys are already been delivered in HK. They should be hitting UK shores within the next 4-6 months.

 

[fossyant]

My next car will probably be a planet burner, and I'll keep it. 3.7 V6 VVTL - makes a nice noise with 300 bhp, or a slightly faster 3.5 V6 with a hybrid battery giving 400 bhp (Nissans). Cost will be less than £15k (used). I'd never splurge £30k plus on electric - it needs to come down in price. 2 seats or 4 is the question.

I'll be doing low miles as I do anyway.

 

[icowden]

Cost will be less than £15k (used). I'd never splurge £30k plus on electric - it needs to come down in price.

You aren't comparing well. Firstly you are comparing a second hand car against a new one. Then you need to add on the extortionate cost of Diesel or Petrol, regular servicing, increased insurance, increased road tax and other charges if you travel into low emission or congestion zones, parking costs etc. Electric is expensive up front thanks to Bozo and his cronies just paying lip service to the environmental lobby, but a lot cheaper over time.

Those Nissan Infiniti seem to cost more than a Model 3 when new.

 

[fossyant]

You aren't comparing well. Firstly you are comparing a second hand car against a new one. Then you need to add on the extortionate cost of Diesel or Petrol, regular servicing, increased insurance, increased road tax and other charges if you travel into low emission or congestion zones, parking costs etc. Electric is expensive up front thanks to Bozo and his cronies just paying lip service to the environmental lobby, but a lot cheaper over time.

Those Nissan Infiniti seem to cost more than a Model 3 when new.

I can't see the new EV's dropping in price like an ICE does though. I can't justify it due to the lack of miles I do, so any environmental impact is low. I'll be hybrid working, and I'll be bike commuting where possible. Also, EV's sound rubbish.

 

[cougie uk]

I can't see the new EV's dropping in price like an ICE does though. I can't justify it due to the lack of miles I do, so any environmental impact is low. I'll be hybrid working, and I'll be bike commuting where possible. Also, EV's sound rubbish.

By contrast I love mine. Nice and almost silent when coming in late or going out early.

 

[CXRAndy]

I can float into our village and leave and no one knows.

The Rivian and F150 EV are just about to be released, my last fossil burner will go shortly to get a big load carrying EV