Flashing front bike lights

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Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
If you were cycling in a group of 3 along the GBW at about 7:15pm just east of St.Ives heading toward Swavesey last night, where you ALL had your LED bright front lights on strobe, you are all nobbers and menaces. Turn the fecking things off. 1) It was no where near dark and 2) Your lights were dazzling and dangerous. 3) There is absolutely no need to have such bright lights on strobe on the GBW or on any road for that matter unless you want to cause an accident.

End of rant.
 
All groups of road users contain groups or elements who are given to excessive or inappropriate illumination.

I find more among car drivers than any other group, but they do usually have more lights to play with: Failure to dip approaching oncoming traffic, unnecessary use of fog lights and the like in good visibility, holding cars on the footbrake on hills in heavy traffic.... there is quite a list.

Nonetheless, a small group of cyclists also seem oblivious to the effect their lights can have. I hear the argument "If I'm dazzling him, at least he's seen me". That seems not to add up as a justification. I'm not writing here about those cyclists who prefer to have multiple lamps front and rear; that seems eminently sensible. I mean the riders who, either deliberately or through ignorance, set their extremely powerful lights to dazzle oncoming motorists. In 'flash' mode, this would appear to help nobody. There may be an element of 'look at me!' about it. I suspect that most of the high-wattage, 'in-your-eyes' flashers are boys or men. That sounds wrong, but I won't edit it...

I suspect that in some cases these riders are not drivers, although that view doesn't account for the vast number of drivers who don't know where their dipswitch is.

These things are sent to try us....
 

tyred

Squire
Location
Ireland
I do have issues with being dazzled by lights on the road at night. Perhaps my eyes are more sensitive than normal, I don't know but I do seem to suffer more than most.

I really do think there should be a crackdown on people who can't be bothered to dip their headlamps when meeting oncoming traffic, people who can't be bothered to adjust and set their headlamps correctly (cars and bikes), people who fit ridiculously bright HID bulbs kits in headlamps designed for H4 halogen bulbs, people who use fog lights when it is not foggy or any where close to being foggy and also lorry drivers who feel the need to fit 4 - 6 high powered spot lights on the roof of their cab. This is a problem as the roads around here are undulating with a lot of hidden dips and they don't realise I'm there until they crest the hill so I get 4 x 100W halogen spotlights in my face.

Then there is the question of people around here who feel the need to light up their garden and driveway with bright spot lights, often pointing at the road and some can be dazzling. Why do people feel the need for so much light these days?

Flashing bike lights are another thing entirely. I can't understand how anyone could ride with a flashing headlamp. Any time I've tried, I've found it seriously distracting.

Why do people feel the need for so much light these days, either in the home, the garden, the car or the bike?
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
On my commuting bike I have one torch on lowest power 'steady' setting, and one on S-O-S flash pattern. In broad daylight. All the time. (In the dark the AyUPs get switched on and I melt the tarmac) Some of the anaesthetised stupid mofo's in their Audi's, Mercs, Volvos and Beemers who regularly attempt gbh, or worse, on myself and my friends, still can't see us it seems, but if the worst happens I wish to ensure their stupidity and bovine lack of awareness behind the wheel is highlighted in the courts.

I don't give a toss if it dazzles in daylight. (at night a different matter)

Not one flying feck.
 

gaz

Cycle Camera TV
Location
South Croydon
Strobe is the most annoying flash pattern. I hate it.
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
You would if someone you've dazzled drives into you.
Every time a cyclist uses a powerful flashing light in daylight a kitten dies. Right.

Yeah. Happens all the time. Daily Mail is full of stories of folk mowed down by be-dazzled motorists who just passed a cyclist going the other way. It's a mhoooo-sive problem up there with the odds of getting taken out by an illegal immigrant falling from the wheel bay of a passing jet.
 
On my commuting bike I have one torch on lowest power 'steady' setting, and one on S-O-S flash pattern. In broad daylight. All the time. (In the dark the AyUPs get switched on and I melt the tarmac) Some of the anaesthetised stupid mofo's in their Audi's, Mercs, Volvos and Beemers who regularly attempt gbh, or worse, on myself and my friends, still can't see us it seems, but if the worst happens I wish to ensure their stupidity and bovine lack of awareness behind the wheel is highlighted in the courts.

I don't give a toss if it dazzles in daylight. (at night a different matter)

Not one flying feck.

This is a surprisingly common sentiment among road users today, not just on the matter of dazzling.

One frequently comes across road users who don't give a toss (or indeed a flying feck) about one thing or another.

How refreshing to see this sentiment championed on a forum like this...
 

Peteaud

Veteran
Location
South Somerset
Every time a cyclist uses a powerful flashing light in daylight a kitten dies. Right.

Yeah. Happens all the time. Daily Mail is full of stories of folk mowed down by be-dazzled motorists who just passed a cyclist going the other way. Its a mhoooo-sive problem up there with the odds of getting taken out by an illegal immigrant falling from the wheel bay of a passing jet.


But in all fairness my good friend, you dazzle them / us with your smile anyway ^_^
 

G2EWS

Well-Known Member
I have mentioned it elsewhere but I use flashing front and rear LED's at any time of the day. Seems to work by getting me noticed and not too bright to upset folk.

Chris
 

Vapin' Joe

Formerly known as Smokin Joe
Every time a cyclist uses a powerful flashing light in daylight a kitten dies. Right.

Yeah. Happens all the time. Daily Mail is full of stories of folk mowed down by be-dazzled motorists who just passed a cyclist going the other way. Its a mhoooo-sive problem up there with the odds of getting taken out by an illegal immigrant falling from the wheel bay of a passing jet.

:rolleyes:

If you dazzle someone it means they are less likely to see you. An optician will confirm that. If they can't see you they are more likely to hit you.

It's quite simple really.
 
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