Flashing front bike lights

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GrumpyGregry

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:rolleyes:

If you dazzle someone it means they are less likely to see you. An optician will confirm that. If they can't see you they are more likely to hit you.

It's quite simple really.
They ain't lookin' so how are they ever gonna see me in the first place?
 

gavintc

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Southsea
:rolleyes:

If you dazzle someone it means they are less likely to see you. An optician will confirm that. If they can't see you they are more likely to hit you.

It's quite simple really.

I disagree. On a murky morning with light rain, a cyclist with a flashing headlight catches my eye quicker than a cyclist without. My optician might have a different opinion, but that is his problem.
 

GrumpyGregry

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This is a surprisingly common sentiment among road users today, not just on the matter of dazzling.

One frequently comes across road users who don't give a toss (or indeed a flying feck) about one thing or another.

How refreshing to see this sentiment championed on a forum like this...
I aim to please. Unlike my blinky lights.
 

Vapin' Joe

Formerly known as Smokin Joe
I disagree. On a murky morning with light rain, a cyclist with a flashing headlight catches my eye quicker than a cyclist without. My optician might have a different opinion, but that is his problem.
I don't know what you're disagreeing with me about, I'm not talking about flashing lights but Greg's practice of setting his front light so it dazzles oncoming drivers. Unless you think having a blinded driver coming towards you somehow makes you safer.
 
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Crankarm

Crankarm

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The situation I write of is perhaps rather unique. There is no vehicular traffic to be dazzled by or to dazzle save for buses on the GBW just other cyclists, runners, joggers, pedestrians and the occasional horse and numerous rabbits. So cycling along, at the end of day, you see in the distance x3 powerful lights set on strobe. They eventually get nearer and the light flashes are piercing bright light and because there are three LED on strobe pointing directly at you it's like flash over load. The riders were I think MAMILS on hybrid bikes although I could be wrong as I couldn't see them as I literally couldn't look at them as the lights were so blinding as they approached. I shouted at them to fecking turn them off. Don't know if they did as they sped past into the distance. There is no way the lights were illuminating their path as one it was no where near dark enough. I didn't have my lights on which were still in my panniers which are for elimination of doubt an Exposure Max D 1200 Lumens and two rear RSP Astriums 1/2W lights. These cyclists were selfish ignorant muppets with no thought of the affect their lights would have on any one else they might shine on.

Now if these nobbers ride with these lights in strobe mode on the roads, in traffic, which I am sure they must do, then it must only be time before they cause an accident. And as always happens it won't be them that gets injured but some poor unfortunate sod that is blinded by them colliding with some thing or some one else.

Car and other vehicle drivers are some times slow to dip main beam headlights and which DO NOT strobe, but the cycle strobe lights I saw last night were something else, a lot stronger and able to temporarily impair vision. The cyclists made no attempt to dip or re-direct them. At best they are a menace and at worst they could be very dangerous on a road with traffic approaching. And then there is also the possibility of these strobe lights being reflected into the eyes of drivers passing them from rear view mirrors. I have a strobe function on my Max D light but have never ever used or felt the need to use the setting. Why front facing bike lights have a strobe/flashing setting I do not know. Strobe lights should be BANNED and made ILLEGAL.
 
Reminds me of a post a while back with someone on a canal towpath screaming at people coming towards him dazzling him (on YouTube)
 

GrumpyGregry

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Here's the thing, when you have a bright 'dazzling' blinky coming towards you, don't look directly at it.

Just like you don't look directly at car headlights.

You know it makes sense.
 

wiggydiggy

Legendary Member

Not sure about being made illegal but otherwise I agree with all you say - strobe/flashing lights are there to get you noticed, not to see with, so on the GBW there's no need for them to flash at all.
 

Crosstrailer

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On my commuting bike I have one torch on lowest power 'steady' setting, and one on S-O-S flash pattern. In broad daylight. All the time. (In the dark the AyUPs get switched on and I melt the tarmac) Some of the anaesthetised stupid mofo's in their Audi's, Mercs, Volvos and Beemers who regularly attempt gbh, or worse, on myself and my friends, still can't see us it seems, but if the worst happens I wish to ensure their stupidity and bovine lack of awareness behind the wheel is highlighted in the courts.

I don't give a toss if it dazzles in daylight. (at night a different matter)

Not one flying feck.

Just those car makes then.......:rolleyes:
 

Crosstrailer

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Flashing lights should not be banned, thats just not sensible

I have a 2 inch LED on the front of my bike which I often set to flash at night for no other reason than to say 'I AM HERE, DON'T PULL OUT ON ME OR RUN ME OVER !!!!!'. Far more effective than a single light for that purpose.

Last night I turned the light on and walked some distance away from the bike to check the effect, and I have to say if anyway is dazzled by it or cannot judge the depth then they really need to see an optician.

I think even with the more powerful lights than I have its more a case of what angle the light is set to, strobing or not.
 
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Crankarm

Crankarm

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Reminds me of a post a while back with someone on a canal towpath screaming at people coming towards him dazzling him (on YouTube)

And your point?

Your are supposed to be a copper. What's your view or the law in relation to very bright and I mean bright, cycle front lights that flash or strobe? They certainly don't illuminate the route and if they were safe and effective why don't ALL vehicles have them, cars included?
 
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