Fly tipping on Bwlch mountain.

[DRM]

Held out for 6 whole hours.

Still, thats better than turning up two years late.

And 3 years late the first time round

 

[nogoodnamesleft]

The only way back is for people to regain pride in themselves and their environment. And generally division and scapegoating isn’t going to help this.

I despair with some. We have just two bins a black landfill bin and a green all recycling bin (unsorted). My neighbour is an alcoholic and more than 1 large glass bottle every day. Yet her husband will not put the large number of heavy easily recyclable bottles in the recycling bin. In the house they are sorted and glass bottles in a reusable "bag for life" any every time the bottles and the (nearly new) plastic "bag for life" put in the landfill bin.

(He is aware that it's wrong, just doesn't care and can't be bothered.

Such attitudes and what hope is there?

 

[Electric_Andy]

Such attitudes and what hope is there?

There could be, or should be, some sort of easy visual check I think. I've seen red labels stuck on bins before when they've been refused for collection, due to excessive weight. Surely if they open the lid and see a load of stuff in the wrong bin, they can do the same? Or just make a note of the address and get Admin to write them a letter

 

[nogoodnamesleft]

There could be, or should be, some sort of easy visual check I think. I've seen red labels stuck on bins before when they've been refused for collection, due to excessive weight. Surely if they open the lid and see a load of stuff in the wrong bin, they can do the same? Or just make a note of the address and get Admin to write them a letter

Our collections seem very tolerant. From their perspective quicker and easier just to dump it in the lorry. Reality is when I spot it (bins live up by the road) I end up "bin diving", emptying the landfill bin out and sorting it properly. Horrible job. Neighbour has seen me doing it and apologised and said "won't happen again" but nothing changes. Passing dog walkers have also done the same bins properly! I have thought about reporting it or just sticking a recycling label on the landfill bin on collection day (like it's the Council collecting lorry has put it there.

My rant was a bit off-topic, raised more to express how maybe the underlying problem is the attitude of some to rubbish, the lack of care some have towards these issues.

 

[Electric_Andy]

underlying problem is the attitude of some to rubbish

Yes I think that's it. There are a few "I pay my taxes and clearing up after me is what that's for", and also "they're already picking up rubbish so a few more bags won't hurt", and even "it all gets sent to Asia for burning anyway so what's the point in sorting rubbish"

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

I despair with some. We have just two bins a black landfill bin and a green all recycling bin (unsorted). My neighbour is an alcoholic and more than 1 large glass bottle every day. Yet her husband will not put the large number of heavy easily recyclable bottles in the recycling bin. In the house they are sorted and glass bottles in a reusable "bag for life" any every time the bottles and the (nearly new) plastic "bag for life" put in the landfill bin.

(He is aware that it's wrong, just doesn't care and can't be bothered.

Such attitudes and what hope is there?

There was a woman in Menai Bridge that was fined for putting things in the wrong bin

Basically she just filled up one bin - and when it was full moved onto the next one
all unsorted

she just didn;t care and ignored all warnings

so after many warnings she got fined and the local paper was full of how terrible it was that she had to cope with SO many bins
they got it to 14 different bins
but in reality it they gave her several "inside bins" which emptied into bigger "outside bins" t make it all easier
and several small bags for things like batteries



I have also noticed that some people in our street put stuff in the blue recycling bin
but it is all in plastic bags - which the instructions clearly say not to do

People!!!

 

[presta]

There could be, or should be, some sort of easy visual check I think. I've seen red labels stuck on bins before when they've been refused for collection, due to excessive weight. Surely if they open the lid and see a load of stuff in the wrong bin, they can do the same? Or just make a note of the address and get Admin to write them a letter

If our bin men spot something in the wrong bin they just leave the bin unemptied.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

If our bin men spot something in the wrong bin they just leave the bin unemptied.

It was recycling bin day here today and all the bins were collected

except next door's

I do wonder if it is because they put everything in plastic bags
or maybe they just put it out too late??

 

[presta]

It was recycling bin day here today and all the bins were collected

except next door's

I do wonder if it is because they put everything in plastic bags
or maybe they just put it out too late??

Which started mailing their magazines in compostable 'plastic' bags at one time, but when I put one in the food bin it got rejected. Once Which realised that bin men don't have the time to read the messages printed on every 'polythene' bag in every bin, they changed to using paper wrappers instead.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Which started mailing their magazines in compostable 'plastic' bags at one time, but when I put one in the food bin it got rejected. Once Which realised that bin men don't have the time to read the messages printed on every 'polythene' bag in every bin, they changed to using paper wrappers instead.

My union magazine come in one of those - I am never sure what to do with it!

I would get it by email to save paper and all the rest
but apparently it has to come by post!

 

[presta]

Our new system has a paper and cardboard bin, but says clean stuff only - no food cartons. I was going to put a Weetabix box in it this week on the grounds that it's clean because they're wrapped in plastic internally. Then I had second thoughts: the bin men aren't going to check every food box to see if it's clean, they'll just see it and reject the bin.

 

[nogoodnamesleft]

Our new system has a paper and cardboard bin, but says clean stuff only - no food cartons. I was going to put a Weetabix box in it this week on the grounds that it's clean because they're wrapped in plastic internally. Then I had second thoughts: the bin men aren't going to check every food box to see if it's clean, they'll just see it and reject the bin.

Tear it up, fold it back on itself so only the inside surfaces show, etc.. Loads of options.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

At the end of the day the bin men just hook the bin onto the thingy at the back of the wagon and press a button

They might notice something obvious at the top

but if there is a mucky food carton (which we are allowed) half way down then there is no chance they will notice

they are also mostly unlikely to actually bother - they have enough work to get done without pratting about with notices and warnings


unless there is a big central problem when a "checker" might come round and do some checks as they go round

but even then - are they really going to empty a whole bin out to check if there are a few dodgy items at the bottom???


so in my mind it is mostly a moral issue - you know what you are supposed to do and why - so you should do it

 

[annedonnelly]

In some areas they definitely check the contents of the recycling bins. I don't know if it's every time and every house and how far they delve into a bin but my friend had a note on his about something he'd put in and it wasn't emptied that day.

It's fair enough because often it's not entirely clear what can go in. As I've said before the rules are different in different council areas and don't always match what's written on the packaging.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

In some areas they definitely check the contents of the recycling bins. I don't know if it's every time and every house and how far they delve into a bin but my friend had a note on his about something he'd put in and it wasn't emptied that day.

It's fair enough because often it's not entirely clear what can go in. As I've said before the rules are different in different council areas and don't always match what's written on the packaging.

They have recently changed our to allow a lot more
including food trays - the type you get chicken and stuff in I presume
and things like cartons and Tetra Packs

WHich does mean our recycling bin is fuller and the "general waste" one is emptier - which is the point really

we should be getting a Food Recycling bin towards the end of the year
maybe