Forme Longcliffe - Veloce Versus 105

[Kevoffthetee]

given the specs below, which would you choose? Thanks, Kev

105

• Frame: Forme AL 7005 SL Triple Butted, Smooth Welded

• Fork: Torayca 700 12K

• Cranks: FSA Length: 48/51CM-170mm, 53/56CM-172.5mm, 58/60CM-175mm

• Bottom Bracket: FSA

• Front Derailleur: Shimano 105 FD-5700

• Rear Derailleur: Shimano 105 RD-5700

• Shifters: Shimano 105 ST-5700

• Cassette: Shimano CS-4600, 10-S, 12-13-14-15-16-17-19-21-23-25T

• Chain: KMC X10

• Hubs: One23 Polished

• Rims: Mavic Open Pro

• Tyres: Schwalbe Lugano 700CX23

• Brakes: Shimano BR-R650

• Handlebar: Forme Ergofit AL 6061 Drop 144mm, Reach 77mm

• Headset: FSA 1-1/8" Semi-Integrated

• Stem: Forme Ergofit AL6061- 7D Rise, 31.8mm

• Saddle: Forme Ergofit Sportif

• Seatpost: Forme Ergofit AL6061 31.6X300mm With Micro Adjustment

OR Veloce:

• Frame: Forme 7005 aluminium, triple butted, smooth welded, mudguard eyelets

• Fork: Forme T700 12m (marble stone) carbon blade, 1-1/8 - 1.5" tapered alloy steerer, mudguard eyelets

• Cranks: FSA gossamer compact, 50/34t

• Bottom Bracket: FSA megaexo sealed

• Front Derailleur: Campagnolo veloce

• Rear Derailleur: Campagnolo veloce, 10-spd, short cage

• Shifters: Campagnolo veloce ergopower, 20-spd

• Cassette: Campagnolo veloce, 12/25t

• Chain: Kmc x10, 10-spd

• Wheelset: 4za stratos sealed bearing

• Tyres: Schwalbe lugano, 700 x 23c, puncture prevention

• Brakes: Forme alloy dual pivot, 39 - 52mm, cartridge pads

• Brake Levers: Campagnolo veloce ergopower

• Handlebar: 4za stratos road compact, alloy 31.8mm

• Headset: FSA no.42b/cup, 1 1/8 - 1.5" integrated, sealed angular contact bearing

• Stem: 4za stratos, alloy 28.6 x 31.8mm, 7° rise

• Grips: Forme ergofit cork

• Saddle: 4za stratos mens, width: 130mm

• Seatpost: 4za stratos, alloy 31.6 x 350mm, layback: 25mm

 

[raleighnut]

105 every time

 

[Vapin' Joe]

Having used both, they're exactly the same to use. Campag a slightly heavier shift, 105 a tad lighter but slightly less precise.

 

[arch684]

HI I have a forme longcliffe 105 shifting is smooth and precise but I did change the cassette to a 30t large cog

 

[smokeysmoo]

I built a bike and put Veloce on it a couple of years ago, hated it TBH.

Felt very agricultural against 105 and the thumb levers are horrid IMO.

 

[fossala]

Ultrashift<Shimano<Powershift.

Veloce have powershift so I would go for the 105.