FNRttC Friday Night Ride to the Coast to Southend-on-Sea 30th April 2010

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TimO

Guru
Location
London
I've just surfaced from most of Saturday asleep, so I'll just explain some of the events which I was around to experience.

I stopped with the TECs to deal with the puncture about five miles or so before the halfway stop. Since we knew he had already had a puncture, we went over the rim and tyre scrupulously. It was not an easy tyre to get on, but not the worst I've seen, and after getting it all back together we used my CO2 cartridge to inflate it, we were getting ready to leave when <Bang>. We took it off, checked the rim and tyre again, put another tyre on, this time pumped up by hand, just in case the C02 pressure had been too much for it.

At this point we started to move off again, I was a little ahead, and since I was probably the slowest rider there, decided to plod on and get ahead as far as I could so as not to slow things down too much. At the first roundabout I locked back and saw lights coming my way, so assumed everyone was behind me. The next time I looked back, no one was in sight. I stopped and waited a bit, but no one else came. I decided they must have had a minor mechanical, since obviously there was no way that the inner tube could have gone again. When I got to the services I was somewhat surprised that I had got, paid for, drunk my coffee, eaten my doughnut, gone to the loo, and the trailing group still han't arrived.

Ultimately there were two more puncture after I had left them, but I don't think there was anything I could have done should I have stayed. The wheel and tyre seemed fine, so it must have been something that just poked out slightly under pressure, but it was far from obvious. I hope we never get another one of those, since generally we wouldn't be so lucky with Taxis.

At Stanford-Le-Hope, User10571 asked me to be TEC until Adrian caught us back up, which I was happy to do. As we passed wayfinders we told them to wait, since I knew Adrian, Charlotte and Liz (on the Tandem) and others (whoever the puncturees were) were behind us. A short distance on, one of the waypointers said he had overheard a conversation about Adrian taking a different route. Some phone calls later we had worked out that this was indeed the case, so with some buggering about, after about 45 minutes of waiting we had recovered as many of the way waypointers as we thought there were behind us (and from the previous posts it sounds like one of you went on the train, but Clive knew about that, so that was one which I failed to notice was missing!).

At this point I knew that I was definitely at the back of the ride (possibly excepting Adrians group, who I knew could find their own way, wherever they had got to). So, when stopping briefly on bread and cheese hill to de-coat and cool down a bit, it was a bit unsettling to have 20+ riders cycle past us. :sad:

It transpired that they had gone the wrong way at a roundabout (I'm not sure what happened to the waypointer), and had taken a while to realise this. Since we had waited previously at least 45 minutes, and had only gone slightly faster than the ride generally does (probably just a couple of mph faster than the normal average), they must have gone significantly wrong to have been that far behind, especially since their rate meant they easily passed us and disappeared into the distance.

Edit: Having read PippaG's post, which went up whilst I was writing mine, it appears the reason that there wasn't a waymarker was because they had overtaken the leader. This would appear to be a case of "Tough", since if you do this, you deal with the consequences.

When we met Matthew, doing final waypointing duty at the Cafe, I said to him that I thought we were the end of the ride, but I'd given up being certain about anything! I think we were actually the back then, I hope no one else managed to come in behind us, or I'll need to go and have a wibble somewhere!

I haven't mentioned the injury, since I didn't see any more than the injured elbow, and the paramedics dealing with him later on, but I think we've been very lucky historically to have not have had a prior injury worse than slight bruising. It's unfortunate for Andrew that he now has the honour of being the first "proper" injury of the rides history, but it sounds like things are already on the mend. It's inevitably a risk of any large group ride, and especially one run at night when people can be a little more tired than usual that accidents will happen. I don't think there's much that can be doin about this another than emphasis on taking care at the initial safety briefing. This isn't a criticism of Simon's speech, which is more than adequate, I'm just not sure there's much we can do to improve things, it's just "one of those things".

Possibly we do need a slightly more resilient mechanism for dealing with deliberately splitting the ride, so waypointers don't get left behind. The system did work this time, but partially more through luck. If the back of the ride does split off, then someone either has to continue to sweep up the waypointers, or someone up front needs to be told, so they can go back and collect them all. I realise this can be difficult on a ride like this, where it was light on experience, but we got lucky as regards not loosing anyone, so we need to be a little more careful in future.

If all that preceeding text sounds a little depressing in places, I'd still say that I enjoyed the ride, and think that all the people responsible, Simon in particular, but all those doing TEC and waypointing duty still did their normal exceptional jobs, and at the end of the day, we're all adults, and it's our own personal responsibility to be ready to deal with things when stuff goes wrong. I think even with sub-optimal weather conditions and a few unfortunate incidents, everything pretty much worked as it should, and hopefully most people had an enjoyable time.

Right, you can now return to the normal service of bad and possibly off-colour jokes. :sad:
 

Davywalnuts

Chief Kebab Taster
Location
Staines!
Auntie Helen said:
Davy, you're getting repetitive!

Whoops, darn mobile internet!!
 

Davywalnuts

Chief Kebab Taster
Location
Staines!
ianrauk said:
Blimey, well done Davey..it was obviously all those calories from that out of sell by date doughnut..:sad:

Dont be jealous now over my non-sharing of what was a lovely chocolate coated and custard filled donut now.... :sad::laugh:
 

TimO

Guru
Location
London
An alternative route to redfalo's, which is 100% legal, since those of us at the back would never dream of doing anything naughty, like cycling along the path at Southend covered in No Cycling signs (especially when coming through at 8am, when people are awake!)
 

beatleandrew

New Member
Well, well, what an interesting ride. It didn’t really pan out as I expected, but after last month’s fiasco I’m thrilled to have arrived home with no mechanicals to speak of! I’m also pleased to report that I’m not seriously injured. Thanks so much for all of your concern and wishes!

The rain was unfortunate after having had such dry weather recently, but it was hardly like the November 2009 ride, so wasn’t too unpleasant. One of my old university friends, Alessandra, who I hadn’t seen for a few years, came to join the ride. I spent most of my time riding with her rather than way finding as I usually do. All was going well until the collision…

I’m not sure exactly what happened or how many people were involved. We passed back the call of “Easy” as the pack slowed down, but another rider ploughed into the back of me with quite a force and I was thrown forward, landing on my right side and another bike landing on top of me. I had pains in my right knee, hip and elbow, the elbow being the worst of the three. I could still move all of the joints in my arm and hand, so I thought the injuries were probably ok. I was shaking quite a lot, but Ian helped me give the bike a quick check over and he and Alessandra rode with me the remaining couple of miles to Junction 31. The shaking wore off a bit, but it hurt to put pressure on my arm so I rode most of the distance with only one hand on the handlebars.

At Junction 31 I grabbed a coffee and sandwich and put my arm on ice for about 20 minutes. I was quite a lucky boy to have Rachael, Cathy and Alessandra all taking care of me! I thought I was doing ok and should manage to ride the rest of the way to Southend, but would take the train rather than ride back to London afterwards. In hindsight, I was actually feeling quite jittery and was probably getting by on adrenaline. Shock set in quite suddenly. Rachael saw the colour drain from my face and asked if I wanted to lie down. I said no, but within 30 seconds I was feeling faint and nauseous, and my vision was getting blurred, so she took me to lie down with my feet up. I started shivering and showed no improvement after a while, so Simon called an ambulance to check me out in case I’d split a bone or sustained some other unidentified injury. I perked up a little after spending time with the paramedics, but was still in a fragile state. I decided not to go for an x-ray as having full movement in my arm suggested that it was probably not that bad. Simon and Cathy then took charge of me and escorted the bike and I back home in a taxi.

After some rest, I’m glad to report that I’m not in too bad a state. My right arm suffered the most and is quite sore. My knee and hip are scraped and bruised and my left thigh has some marks on it, but on the whole I’m not too bad. I suspect that I may have chipped a bone in my elbow. I’ll see how it is and decide in a couple of days whether or not to seek further medical attention, but in my experience there isn’t a great deal that can be done about little chips of bone.

I sounds like the rest of the ride was a little messier than usual! Does this one get the record for FNRttC puncture count?

Thanks to everyone who has helped me out and shown their concern. You’re such a lovely bunch! I probably won’t be on the next couple of rides, but rest assured that this experience hasn’t put me off and I’ll see you all for more fun in July or August!
 

redfalo

known as Olaf in real life
Location
Brexit Boomtown
TimO said:
An alternative route to redfalo's, which is 100% legal, since those of us at the back would never dream of doing anything naughty, like cycling along the path at Southend covered in No Cycling signs (especially when coming through at 8am, when people are awake!)

Oops! I never noticed that I commited such an nasty offence :smile: . Apologies to the people of Southend!
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
Good to hear from you Andrew and glad you are feeling better. The last time I spoke to you (you were being escorted by a paramedic).. what is the phrase that comes to mind? Oh yeah... you looked like death warmed up... keep popping the painkillers mate and see you again soon.
 

Auntie Helen

Ich bin Powerfrau!
Glad to hear you're OK, Andrew.

Despite the apparent gloominess/difficulty of the ride, I enjoyed it very much. Thanks to Simon and User10571 for leading.
 

TC2

New Member
Thanks Simon and the TECs for their support especially the one with the big pump. I had 4 punctures TC1 had 3 on the night but thoroughly enjoyed the company and the experience hope Andys on the mend i saw the three bikes crash as i was directly behind them, the stopping call went up one pulled up short and the cascade had the two behind stuck in kleets all went over together in a heap. the night started with a puncture just before the start for tc1 at which point he got a text from teef and daves comment was "is this a bad omen or what". I then had 2 punctures to which simon asked me in passing what tyers have you got! (shwalbe) I had another 2 punctures durnig the night, we got seperated from the pack tc1 had another punture and we pushed on to catch up but found ourselves in front. so on to Breakfast at the rose which was exellent! at arround 7.10am and watched as all the groups slowly turned up i think the last lot arrived at 9am. I must say my appologys to aunty helen we were wrong you were right they are not the same (Maritime flag signalling) . teef sorry i did'nt see you but totally agree with you B**@%£$ p&^*"!s. sun came out for the ride back so that was great, Dave did have another puncture on the way back said goodbye to steve then we stopped at rainham sanctuary for a cup of tea pushed on again left TC1 and Davy walnuts at vauxhall bridge then picked up some New tyers gators (simon) at victoria before heading home to west ham 7pm dinner bath and bed
Mr's TC2 thinks we've all got rubbish bikes cos we keep having flats! i didnt have the heart to. once again thanks. 104miles not inc the ride back from victoria to westham my PB
 

Auntie Helen

Ich bin Powerfrau!
TC2 said:
Mr's TC2 thinks we've all got rubbish bikes cos we keep having flats! i didnt have the heart to. once again thanks. 104miles not inc the ride back my PB
I think you've clearly all got rubbish bikes with all your punctures as I have 50% extra wheels on my bike and didn't have one. This is, of course, a dangerous comment to make...

7 punctures between the TCs is a bit of a shocker! Are either of you coming on my Manningtree ride on Sat 8th? If so, you might like to invest in some more inner tubes or persuade TC1 to buy some Gatorskins or Marathon Plus...
 

StuAff

Silencing his legs regularly
Location
Portsmouth
Glad you're feeling a bit better Andrew, looking forward to seeing you back on the ride when you're up to it.
 
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dellzeqq

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
thankyou for that, Andrew. Lovely to hear from you.

I think that it's time to put a few heads together and see if we can make some improvements.

The ride is, by many measures, a success. A couple of the new riders described this month's effort as 'slick'. They clearly have a surprise in store when I get my act together. It sometimes is very slick - you only have to go back to last month's, or the ride to Whitstable last year when we had twelve punctures on a tougher route, or even the November ride where we had a great mix of riders on a miserable night on a much tougher route....

What happened here was that I took my eye off the ball. The safety talk was bleh! The mix at the back wasn't right - you need a talker and a puncture expert. I should have had a hands-free kit for the phone long ago (I've got one this morning), so that I don't need to stop to receive phone calls. I should have taken the opportunity offered by the road to go to the right and survey the 'peloton' which I usually do, but neglected to do on this ride.

Having said that - the rider that went in to the back of Andrew was the most experienced rider on the ride, with what amounts to a post-grad degree in night riding - he knows more about it than I do. Yes, he was chatting to the person beside him, but that's what it's supposed to be about. The road surface was nigh on perfect, and the visibility was good. Our speed was sedate.

So........I'll consult, and next month there'll probably be some tweaks. I'm constitutionally averse to systems, but it would be dumb not to acknowledge that it's the system that has made the ride a success, and dumber not to improve it.
 

arallsopp

Post of The Year 2009 winner
Location
Bromley, Kent
TimO said:
At this point I knew that I was definitely at the back of the ride (possibly excepting Adrians group, who I knew could find their own way, wherever they had got to). So, when stopping briefly on bread and cheese hill to de-coat and cool down a bit, it was a bit unsettling to have 20+ riders cycle past us. :smile:

It transpired that they had gone the wrong way at a roundabout (I'm not sure what happened to the waypointer), and had taken a while to realise this. Since we had waited previously at least 45 minutes, and had only gone slightly faster than the ride generally does (probably just a couple of mph faster than the normal average), they must have gone significantly wrong to have been that far behind, especially since their rate meant they easily passed us and disappeared into the distance.

Having read PippaG's post, which went up whilst I was writing mine, it appears the reason that there wasn't a waymarker was because they had overtaken the leader. This would appear to be a case of "Tough", since if you do this, you deal with the consequences.

Absolutely agreed. I think there are probably more stories to come out from this particular night, but I can at least account for the 9 riders who rejoined alongside Ian and myself at Bread and Cheese. We'd chased them down on the dual carriageway, turned them around, headed back as a group, then promptly punctured. :laugh:

Although familiar from the services, I didn't know 7 faces well enough to think they'd been on any prior FNRttC. I sent texts to the few mobiles I knew on the ride to give our numbers and location, and we were lucky to have Kat to hand with User10571's number.

Whether they (and thus we) were off the front or not, I have no idea. It was that post dawn slot where everything (including mental faculty) is slightly misty. Either way, when my camera detached at the bottom of Bread and Cheese, I sent them on with a wave. Spinning up to join the TECs a few minutes later, I still can't work out how we went from the front to the back so quickly. Maybe we'd been off route for a lot longer than I'd thought...

I have the GPS file to upload, so at least that little mystery can be put to bed. But not right now, 'cos I'm in it. :smile:
 

arallsopp

Post of The Year 2009 winner
Location
Bromley, Kent
Sorry, just woke up to send that and hadn't seen the response from Andrew. Glad you're OK mate. Horrible end to the end for you.

I was riding beside Helen's trike, when I saw a set of low lying red LEDs stationary in the road ahead. Lots of lights, knee high? That's Helen, says I to myself. A brief glance sideways assures me that Helen is still with me, and that clearly things are amiss.

By the time we arrived, there was a veritable pyramid of metal on the tarmac. It looked like an arts installation. Although the call for a 'nature break' was strong, we couldn't work out why people were laying their frames down in the middle of what looked to be a fairly fast road just to have one. Eventually the numbers tallied again. The verge-side sprinklers rejoined other bikes, and the horizontal riders picked themselves up.

I was pleased to see you in company at the approach to the services.
 
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