Froome and Wiggins TUEs

[rich p]

Sirdave, a liability?
https://cyclingtips.com/2016/12/com...-issues-with-dave-brailsford-at-centre-stage/

Let me know when Shane Stokes says something new...

 

[coldash]

Let me know when Shane Stokes says something new...

Yep. That site is full of regurgitated bilge and as for the "Secret Pro" - Secret Fantasist , more like it

 

[Strathlubnaig]

It all stinks. Sky & Co are lying.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

Let me know when Shane Stokes says something new...

Yep. That site is full of regurgitated bilge and as for the "Secret Pro" - Secret Fantasist , more like it

It doesn't have to be "new" to be relevant, nor is it "bilge"

Uncomfortable for those who are "Believers", and it's not far off "haterz gonna hate"

 

[ColinJ]

They are really lining up to have a go now ... LINK.

 

[rich p]

It doesn't have to be "new" to be relevant, nor is it "bilge"

Uncomfortable for those who are "Believers", and it's not far off "haterz gonna hate"

Stokes is a prick. Did he read the Velonews article and swap the words around?

There are questions that could be answered/clarified by Sky, for sure, but until there's something a bit more substantial I'll reserve judgment.
There are many positions between 'Believers' and 'Clinic swivel-eyed loons'

Happy Christmas Marmy!

 

[uclown2002]

Stokes is a prick. Did he read the Velonews article and swap the words around?

There are questions that could be answered/clarified by Sky, for sure, but until there's something a bit more substantial I'll reserve judgment.
There are many positions between 'Believers' and 'Clinic swivel-eyed loons'

Happy Christmas Marmy!

• Why has it taken so long for organisations that claim to be committed to transparency and accountability to get here?

• The Daily Mail now reports that Brailsford tried to persuade them not to run the Jiffy bag story. Why go to such efforts when it merely contained a decongestant?

• Will British Cycling or Team Sky now be able to provide a paper trail to back up the Fluimucil explanation?

• Why was British Cycling president Bob Howden still unable to say what was in the jiffy bag months after the story broke, only for Brailsford to then reveal it?

• Why were Brailsford's original explanations about the delivery not correct when all he had to do was ask former team medic Dr Richard Freeman?

• Why send for a routine, innocuous drug from over 1,000 kilometres away when it could have been easily sourced in France?

• Why did former coach Shane Sutton "authorise" the delivery of something, the details of which he claims not to be aware of? And why did Wiggins' long-term mentor not know what medication his star cyclist was taking?

• And why was Wiggins taking a decongestant that apparently is not meant to be used by asthmatics (like him)?

Nothing to see move along..............................

 

[rich p]

Nothing to see move along..............................

And your point is?

I have agreed that there answers needed but, as yet, no evidence of malpractice.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

Happy Christmas Marmy!

Likewise, you old git

 

[SheilaH]

And your point is?

I have agreed that there answers needed but, as yet, no evidence of malpractice.

Strange, then, that Brailsford was so eager to stop the story coming out...offering up a story about another team abusing TUEs and then the immortal words "Is there anything else that can be done?"

And if he knew the content of the 'package', or could have found out with one phonecall to Freeman, why the massive intrigue? Why not kill the story straight away by saying it was a decongestant? Why allow the story to get legs to the point of being summoned in front of a parliamentary commitee about cheating in sport?

 

[rich p]

Strange, then, that Brailsford was so eager to stop the story coming out...offering up a story about another team abusing TUEs and then the immortal words "Is there anything else that can be done?"

And if he knew the content of the 'package', or could have found out with one phonecall to Freeman, why the massive intrigue? Why not kill the story straight away by saying it was a decongestant? Why allow the story to get legs to the point of being summoned in front of a parliamentary commitee about cheating in sport?

And your point is?

As I said, there are questions but no answers...or evidence yet.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

And your point is?

As I said, there are questions but no answers...or evidence yet.

Fanboy

 

[SWSteve]

Strange, then, that Brailsford was so eager to stop the story coming out...offering up a story about another team abusing TUEs and then the immortal words "Is there anything else that can be done?"

And if he knew the content of the 'package', or could have found out with one phonecall to Freeman, why the massive intrigue? Why not kill the story straight away by saying it was a decongestant? Why allow the story to get legs to the point of being summoned in front of a parliamentary commitee about cheating in sport?

Maybe because he considered it would cause a storm in a teacup and he couldn't guarantee someone -including himself- wouldn't mess up press interaction afterwards.

 

[Viking]

And your point is?

As I said, there are questions but no answers...or evidence yet.

That's where I am on it. The sooner UKAD establish and publish the facts, the better. Until then, I'm not happy to place my faith in the veracity of the Daily Mail or anyone else that used unnamed sources etc.

In any event, I think that the whole of BC needs overhauling and clearly separated from Sky.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

I think a lot of the problems stem from Brailsford being a complete dick control freak.