Garage broken into ............

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Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
Arrived home from work this evening to find my garage door all bent and hanging off the frame which is also badly damaged at the bottom where some one or persons tried to gemmy it open. My bikes, my bikes!!!! I got an even bigger shock when I found out the attempt to break and enter and damage was due to my scum bag neighbour under supervision of the police!!!! Apparently he told them his cat was inside, stuck for two days, so they rushed over to help him break in. Unbelievable. It is or was a fairly new garage door which is now very bent and the frame badly damaged. Inside I hope are still my bikes. As it is pitch black and my neightbour is rather volatile I shall maybe leave it until the morning.
The police can't even be bothered to turn out this evening. They REFUSED to tell me whether they had previously attended earlier to day and done it. I was getting passed around Cambridgeshire Police call centre, fobbed off, had the phone put down on me. I have told them to find some one to repair the damage and replace the main door asap but a duty sargeant told me that they will have to investiagate first and if they are found to be liable then they will pay but so far they acted under s.17 of PACE which means they are not liable where there is threat to life or property. I have neither seen nor heard ANY evidence of a cat in my garage not late last night, at 06:40am this morning or now, nor seen any notes from police put through my door.

Police have just been and told me there is only damage to the frame and my garage is now secure, they have taken pictures on their Blackberry and told me an Inspector will be in touch and left. The PC who put the phone down on me earlier also came along to accompany the sargeant although she didn't introduce herself and neither did her colleage, I had to ask who she was. I am still going to get the chap who installed my garage door to take a look at it and see if it is indeed secure or whether it is damaged as my neighbour and police forced the door twisting it to open the catches. Lucky my car was parked quite close so they didn't have too much room. I shall have to check the front of my car for damage as well. Absolutely unbelievable.

As if there isn't already enough crime without the police doing their bit to add to the crime figures.
 
I dont think the police could break and enter for any cat, I would be thinking the scrote was caught and made the story up to get away with being on your property.........a call for some legal advice would be my first thing on the agenda tomorrow
 

Smurfy

Naturist Smurf
Sorry to hear this. You'd think that if the police were fully or partly responsible for the damage, they'd make a big effort to smooth things over and apologise. Why didn't they call a locksmith, or wait until you got home, rather than bending the door?
 

hotfuzzrj

Guru
Location
Hampshire
Legal advice. Pace is not law. Bang them to rights

What do you mean PACE isn't law?! It's a piece of legislation isn't it?

Anyway threat to life under S.17 PACE refers to humans, not cats...

Sounds as though you've had a bit of shoddy treatment there, I do hope you get it sorted out.
 
PACE is law, and they could use the argument of gaining entry under Section 17, preventing damage to property - the cat.

A bit bloody weak though, considering the sensible approach would have been to make contact with you instead. I wouldn't have put the door in.

Regardless, it's done, and although weak, they will win any legal argument of the right to do it. However, this doesn't mean they can't and won't be found civilly liable for replacing the damage to the door - almost certainly if the cat wasn't in there, and you still have a good case even if it was.

These things don't come round quick, so you need to follow their procedures. In our this involves writing or emailing in with your claim. You should include any cost of repair to bring the door back to the state it was - it doesn't matter if it can still be used now, if its damaged and less secure as a result you should get the price of it to be fixed to the original state.

I would also include on the list the value of the various contents of your garage too, pointing out that if these items are stolen as a result of the garage being insecure, the police can expect a civil lawsuit for the value of those items as well.

It won't be quick and I wish you luck!
 

Smurfy

Naturist Smurf
What do you mean PACE isn't law?! It's a piece of legislation isn't it?

Anyway threat to life under S.17 PACE refers to humans, not cats...

Sounds as though you've had a bit of shoddy treatment there, I do hope you get it sorted out.

<Troll mode on>

I think I read once that lawful and legal are two very different things. :troll:

<Troll mode off>
 

Cubist

Still wavin'
Location
Ovver 'thill
My advice would be to approach this calmly and purposefully. You will get your garage repaired, but ringing up and falling out with everybody in the process won't get everybody off on the right footing. You have to remember that not everybody knows why your garage was broken into, and they may not have the immediate explanation you demanded. Calm down and go to the police station, and ask to speak with a supervisor. Don't fall out with them, and they will bend over backwards to help you if they can. If you approach things from 50,000 feet in a blisteringly angry mood, you have nowhere left to escalate to.
 

MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
I don't understand, why didn't the police tell your neighbour to wait till you arrived home? My cat is always getting stuck in garages and sheds, it lives, if it was stuck for a week or more then I might get worried.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Christ, the cat would have been nice and cosy if it was even in there - why the hell did the neighbour not wait until you were home, the worst that can happen is the cat poops on your saddle ! My own cats quite hapily go into our garage, climb up into the loft space and kip there all day, can't get them to come out sometimes.

deffo get the expert in to check the door and frame and get a quote. Your neighbour is liable. Approach calmly, say OK damage done, but this is the repair bill.
 

Melonfish

Evil Genius in training.
Location
Warrington, UK
legal advise sharpish.
no way would the police break into someones property on the simple word of one person, they'd need other evidence/proof than just his word. i.e. visual sighting of said cat or perhaps sad meowing from within your garage.
i seriously advise you to seek legal council immediately.
 

asterix

Comrade Member
Location
Limoges or York
This is Crankarm, he and the neighbour are probably already on the edge of war. Crankarm's usually at war with eveyone.

He is David Cameron in disguise?

That apart, and on the face of it, this epsiode is most odd. As others have pointed out, cats can live quite ok in a garage for a day or two.

Recently a cat was found alive in a shipping container having been stuck there, it was thought, for about 30 days. It made a full recovery, albeit it now lives on the other side of the world.
 
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