garmin 810 & strava
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StuAff
Silencing his legs regularly
- Location
- Portsmouth
Yup, my 705 on occasion decides to turn itself off. Loading long routes takes an age (metaphorically)....
T.M.H.N.E.T
Rainbows aren't just for world champions
- Location
- Northern Ireland
It is most definitely and irrefutably not on the 800. Mine is as up to date as it can be and I uploaded to strava about 15min ago.
The chap in Evans was talking out of his sausage roll
addictfreak
Guru
- Location
- Boldon, Tyne and Wear
Mods can we please ban all talk about the Garmin 810, it's making me want to buy one!
Rob3rt
Man or Moose!
- Location
- Manchester
If I told you how much I hate mine would it help?
Ningishzidda
Senior Member
One of you wants one. One of you hates it. No brainer.
Rob3rt
Man or Moose!
- Location
- Manchester
I just uploaded to Strava from my 810 again..... still working Staff member possibly misunderstood you, else he was just outright wrong!
Unfortunatelly, losing cash on resale is not an option, I will have to wait this one out I am afraid. Once they sort out the power data issues, I will be mostly happy with it.
Staff member possibly misunderstood you, else he was just outright wrong!Unfortunatelly, losing cash on resale is not an option, I will have to wait this one out I am afraid. Once they sort out the power data issues, I will be mostly happy with it.
Rob3rt
Man or Moose!
- Location
- Manchester
Basically, the power reading drops from the actual power you are putting out to half of that value for 2 to 4 seconds. Then returns to the correct value. This happens on average 28-30 times per 20 minutes for me. Resulting in an average power reading approx 8W lower for a 20 minute threshold effort than it should (for me, will be different for others as it depends on your power output). I can quantify this because I ran it in parallel with my old Edge 500 for a few sessions before my 500 was shipped off to the new owner. There is a long thread on the Garmin Forums where plenty of us have bitched and moaned for over a month now, a few people have posted example data, I posted some comparison data between the Edge 500 and Edge 810 there. Garmin have acknowledged on the thread it is a known issue and they are working on a solution, but they are taking their time.
Edit: Just looked on the Garmin forums, the rumour mill is jabbering on about a product recall because of this very issue, 99% sure this is bollocks though and that a resolution will eventually come in the form of a firmware update.
Edit: Just looked on the Garmin forums, the rumour mill is jabbering on about a product recall because of this very issue, 99% sure this is bollocks though and that a resolution will eventually come in the form of a firmware update.
gaz
Cycle Camera TV
- Location
- South Croydon
Any updates on these issues? My 705 is literally about to be thrown in a ditch (the stupid thing turns off randomly during rides and takes an age to lock onto a satellite (over 20mins))
Andrew_P
In between here and there
Based on Rob3rts Review on another thread I opted for a deal on a base 800 unit. Everything that the 810 does that the 800 can't, I do not want or need. I did need to get shot of the 705 though started doing as per Gaz I got nearly 800 hours use with the 705 @ 32p an hour not sure if that is VFM or not though
gaz
Cycle Camera TV
- Location
- South Croydon
The only thing I think I want from the 810 over the 800 is the different interface with better support for different screens and bikes.
Is it worth it? I can get an 800 for less than £200 brand new and the 810 is still £90 more. (I just need the unit as I have everything else from my 705.). Probably not. Will sleep on it and make my decision tomorrow.
My 705 cost me 23p per hour.
Rob3rt
Man or Moose!
- Location
- Manchester
No, Garmin acknowledged the issue publicly on their forum and said they were aware of it and were working on a fix, they asked for activity files from support forum users along with details of the power meters used in order to help solve the issues. It has been about 2 months since the last firmware update and no resolutions. Some people are still receiving emails from Garmin saying they have never heard of the issue, quite frankly it is a joke at this stage.
In addition to the data recording errors, there are errors in the averaging algorithms which are also yet to be resolved.
With use there are other things that bother me, another with regards power meters, in the menu where you navigate to "calibrate" (annoying use of the term by Garmin, because this function is not calibrating, it is a zero/tare function) the calibrate button sits directly below the search button, when you go to press calibrate, it is easy, especially with winter gloves to press search, this sends the unit into an endless search looking for your power meter, it will either keep failing to detect or will search indefinitely until you power down and turn it back on again, on startup it will find your power meter. They should either fix this search issue (the proper way to fix it) or move the calibrate button further away from the other buttons (the lazy option, however, possibly preferable as it would be more user friendly).
TBH, most of the big issues revolve around power meter usage, but if you look on the Garmin support forums you will find lots of threads about crashes, freezing, UI glitches etc.
Garmin seem to be doing nothing, they will be doing something I am sure, but they are not keeping customers in the loop or releasing firmware iteratively as bugs are worked out. IMO 2 months since the last firmware, with the current issues being so big is not acceptable, they should be falling over themselves to appease the customers (for starters they should be extending all warranties to reflect the time people have had the product yet been unable to use it properly).
BTW, DC Rainmaker has updated his review to take these issues into account, see the pro's and con's section.
Rob3rt
Man or Moose!
- Location
- Manchester
BTW, something I came across on the Garmin forums, which is relevant to the OP and may interest some other prospective users, or indeed current but unaware 810 users.
You can use: http://www.garminsync.com/ to push Garmin Connect activities to Strava, what this means is that you can upload your data to Strava wirelessly (via Bluetooth and your mobile phone) using the 810. When you press stop, it gives you the option to save or discard the activity, if you hit save, it will save the activity to your 810 and if you have paired it to your mobile phone it will upload the activity file to Garmin Connect via the app on your phone just as Garmin intended and advertised, then garminsync will push the activity to Strava for you.
Note: I have NOT tried this, I do not pair my Garmin 810 with my phone so do not use the wireless upload or live track features.
You can use: http://www.garminsync.com/ to push Garmin Connect activities to Strava, what this means is that you can upload your data to Strava wirelessly (via Bluetooth and your mobile phone) using the 810. When you press stop, it gives you the option to save or discard the activity, if you hit save, it will save the activity to your 810 and if you have paired it to your mobile phone it will upload the activity file to Garmin Connect via the app on your phone just as Garmin intended and advertised, then garminsync will push the activity to Strava for you.
Note: I have NOT tried this, I do not pair my Garmin 810 with my phone so do not use the wireless upload or live track features.
Andrew_P
In between here and there
I think they should be forced to support their product beyond its replacement with a new version, it was the only thing I was not keen on with buying a 800 the fact I know I am now in the firmware wilderness. They should support the unit 3 years beyond its replacement with a new model.
Cannot remember the exact difference from Rob's post on another thread regarding bike profiles, but the 800 comes with 5 I think. The interface is a big leap forward from the 705, sadly one of the main reason was I wanted one was the out front mount! Not had <touches wood> any issues thus far.
It seemed to me Bluetooth and Social connectiions were the main difference dont recall any claims to a better screen etc.
Cannot remember the exact difference from Rob's post on another thread regarding bike profiles, but the 800 comes with 5 I think. The interface is a big leap forward from the 705, sadly one of the main reason was I wanted one was the out front mount! Not had <touches wood> any issues thus far.
It seemed to me Bluetooth and Social connectiions were the main difference dont recall any claims to a better screen etc.
