Good quality fixed gear chain

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Seems much beefier than my no name 1/8 inch chain that was on before
using the chain tool proved much more effort to remove the pins

Ha! just realised why,mines the z510hx heavy duty chain......9.4 mm pins :hyper:
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
I like KMC. I wouldn't bother with a half-link chain unless you have a specific need to adjust the chain length half a link at a time. The dog-leg bends in half-link chains was invented for BMX, and is unnecessary for fixed and single-speed. With each pedal stroke these bends are trying to straighten, and their presence probably weakens the chain slightly. Whatever you choose, get one with a proper joining link (i.e. elongated circlip).
If I could understand what this meant I'd still think it was tosh. The day my legs can straighten the bent plates on a half-link is the day I say "Oi, Sir Chris, fancy a race......?"
 

Smurfy

Naturist Smurf
If I could understand what this meant I'd still think it was tosh. The day my legs can straighten the bent plates on a half-link is the day I say "Oi, Sir Chris, fancy a race......?"

Most of the people who've posted in these threads don't like half-link chains. The recurring complaints are excessive stretching, broken side plates and snapped pins.

http://www.sa.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=92459&pagenum=1

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/half-link-chains-all-rubbish
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
Most of the people who've posted in these threads don't like half-link chains. The recurring complaints are excessive stretching, broken side plates and snapped pins.

http://www.sa.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=92459&pagenum=1

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/half-link-chains-all-rubbish
Ah the old "these people agree with me" argument. that always carries the day.:whistle:

and if I had a quid for everything that the forumites on singletrackworld have written off as rubbish over the years I'd be a much wealthier man!;)
 

Smurfy

Naturist Smurf
Ah the old "these people agree with me" argument. that always carries the day.:whistle:

and if I had a quid for everything that the forumites on singletrackworld have written off as rubbish over the years I'd be a much wealthier man!;)

Chain is used for many industrial transmission applications. If half-link chain conferred even a slight advantage it would have completely superceded standard chain for industrial applications, but it hasn't, so you can see that it is purely a marketing tool for bicycle chain.

Structures that have to withstand tension should be straight, so you can see that half-link chain is a flawed design. If he was still alive then you could ask Isambard Kingdom Brunel why the chains on the Clifton Suspension Bridge weren't designed in a half-link style.
 
I use a 3'32 on my fixed with a gear of 48 front and 16 rear. Cant see any reason to ride with a wider chainset/chain apart from fashion.

Chain is a Sram chain, really good chain that lasts over a year if looked after.
 

Smurfy

Naturist Smurf
Yep had one on a s/s 5 years ago kept stretching,

eventually the stretching stopped,

then the side plates kept snapping :angry:

Never again

Probably what happened is that as the side-plates straightened, numerous micro-cracks formed at the site of the bend. The formation of a large number of micro-cracks effectively bypasses the first stage of fatigue failure, which is known as crack initiation. In fatigue failures, a significant proportion of the lifetime is usually taken up by crack initiation. Hence, conventional chains (with straight side-plates) cannot suffer from this life-shortening failure mechanism, because any crack which could eventually cause a fatigue failure has to be initiated without the assistance of side-plate bending (and attendant micro-crack formation).

Two straw men in one argument. Well done.

Thanks! :blush: Did I just set a new Cyclechat record? :highfive:
 

Basil.B

Guru
Location
Oxfordshire
I need a new chain.
My single speed bike has a Surly 3'32 cog and chain ring, Surly chain tensioner.
Would a 8 speed chain be ok? I tried a 1'8 chain but had problems with the chain skipping.
 
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