Government Gobbledegook on Towing Trailers

[Deleted member 26715]

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-rules-for-towing-a-trailer-or-caravan-with-a-car-from-autumn-2021

Daughter passed her test around 2004, now before this change we knew she could not tow a horse trailer Unladen 905Kg Gross 2340Kg with the Shogun 2155Kgs, but reading the above makes it as clear as mud.

 

[T4tomo]

Just put the bike in the boot of the shogun

 

[figbat]

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-rules-for-towing-a-trailer-or-caravan-with-a-car-from-autumn-2021

Daughter passed her test around 2004, now before this change we knew she could not tow a horse trailer Unladen 905Kg Gross 2340Kg with the Shogun 2155Kgs, but reading the above makes it as clear as mud.

Simple - she can have at it, assuming the car is capable of towing the weight.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Simple - she can have at it, assuming the car is capable of towing the weight.

Car towing weight is 3000Kg

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

I'm fine (passed 1983), so even with C1E, it's up to 8.2 tons, with a trailer

 

[Alex321]

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-rules-for-towing-a-trailer-or-caravan-with-a-car-from-autumn-2021

Daughter passed her test around 2004, now before this change we knew she could not tow a horse trailer Unladen 905Kg Gross 2340Kg with the Shogun 2155Kgs, but reading the above makes it as clear as mud.

I can't see what is unclear about it.

Anybody who passed their test after 01/01/1997 is now allowed to tow trailers up to 3,500Kg MAM, provide the weight of trailer plus car doesn't exceed the maximum train weight of the car, and provided the trailer doesn't weigh more than the towing limit of the car. Both maximum train weight and towing limit, as specified by the manufacturer.

 

[neil_merseyside]

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-rules-for-towing-a-trailer-or-caravan-with-a-car-from-autumn-2021

Daughter passed her test around 2004, now before this change we knew she could not tow a horse trailer Unladen 905Kg Gross 2340Kg with the Shogun 2155Kgs, but reading the above makes it as clear as mud.

Trailer is still too heavy isn't it? 100% tops! The towing figures for most cars are just the restart on a set gradient (8 or 12% from memory) and so is simply a traction figure, and for a ballasted flatbead trailer - not a tall wind catching thing with moveable centre of gravity type cargo.
Aren't the towing weight of 4x4 usually inflated to be that for towing an agricultural trailer at 20mph?

 

[figbat]

Trailer is still too heavy isn't it? 100% tops!

There’s no such limit. The max train weight and max trailer weight are provided by the car manufacturer; this may result in a trailer heavier than the car.

 

[Sallar55]

Don't think that this is worried about the rules

 

[CXRAndy]

I'm fine (passed 1983), so even with C1E, it's up to 8.2 tons, with a trailer

 

[gbb]

I still have and use my paper licence (although its embarrassingly tatty now )
(waits for someone to add... 'i don't have a driving licence'

 

[Deleted member 26715]

I still have and use my paper licence (although its embarrassingly tatty now )
(waits for someone to add... 'i don't have a driving licence'

When was it issued?

 

[Jody]

I still have and use my paper licence (although its embarrassingly tatty now )

Same here until a couple of years ago. I'd put it in a 'safe place' that I couldn't remember so had to join the photo card club. I found it shortly after 'upgrading'

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

View attachment 661067 Don't think that this is worried about the rules

Hagglund BV206
I've seen these in action on Morecambe Bay, as 'Bay Search & Rescue' have a couple
Heck!, a few years ago, I ran a 1/2 marathon over the Bay, & the 'crew-bus' was our 'broom-wagons'!!
https://www.baysearchandrescue.org.uk/team/




If you want one, you can buy it about 2 miles east of FInningley Airport at; https://ljacksonandco.com/categories/hagglund-bv-206/
(otherwise known as Doncaster/Robin Hood)

 

[Ian H]

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-rules-for-towing-a-trailer-or-caravan-with-a-car-from-autumn-2021

Daughter passed her test around 2004, now before this change we knew she could not tow a horse trailer Unladen 905Kg Gross 2340Kg with the Shogun 2155Kgs, but reading the above makes it as clear as mud.

It says this:-

What changed on 16 December 2021​

If you passed your car driving test from 1 January 1997, you’re now allowed to tow trailers up to 3,500kg MAM.