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Veteran
He's dressed like a Land Girl.
I suppose it's a case of whether you Dig it or not:biggrin:
 

GuyBoden

Guru
Location
Warrington
Some people are natural guitar players, most just have to work hard at it.
I've found that people who have the hearing and the brain to processes music quickly and accurately is what makes a good musician, it's probably a combination of both nature and nurture. The physical mechanics of playing an instrument is not as important.

Most people can learn the basic mechanics of playing an instrument, it's mostly about putting your fingers in the correct locations at the correct time.
 

Kajjal

Guru
Location
Wheely World
I've found that people who have the hearing and the brain to processes music quickly and accurately is what makes a good musician, it's probably a combination of both nature and nurture. The physical mechanics of playing an instrument is not as important.

Most people can learn the basic mechanics of playing an instrument, it's mostly about putting your fingers in the correct locations at the correct time.

My wife picks things up very quickly on the guitar coming from a musical family. I am more like the terminator and get there eventually ;)
 

r04DiE

300km a week through London on a road bike.
OK, well since this thread seems to be where the guitarists hang out, can I buy a bolt on goodie to make my sustains this long (see 3 mins 14 secs)?

 
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MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
He also only has 5 strings on that 'Tele' :becool:
the bottom E is next to useless in open G.

Now talking of guitars. I've got a left hand Gordon Smith GS-1, thick body, P90 pick-up, wrap over bridge... it's gorgeous, but i just can't get on with electric guitars and i might have to flog it. Any lefties on the forum who might be interested??
 

raleighnut

Legendary Member
the bottom E is next to useless in open G.

Now talking of guitars. I've got a left hand Gordon Smith GS-1, thick body, P90 pick-up, wrap over bridge... it's gorgeous, but i just can't get on with electric guitars and i might have to flog it. Any lefties on the forum who might be interested??
That's why he took it off, his comment "It only gets in the way"
 

raleighnut

Legendary Member

Some people get away with just 4


View: https://youtu.be/JNBADGatcL0


BTW this is 'The Plank' at the beginning.
 

SteCenturion

I am your Father
Any of you 'electric' experts care to explain to a rubbish classical guitarist, what makes the difference between electric guitars?

I understand it with acoustic / classical - different material, different shape = different sound.

But electric - how can the pickups / strings make such a difference?
Let me have a go ....

1. There are a vast & widely different range of pickups available which all provide a different spectrum of sounds, not only if fitted to the same instrument, but to different instruments.

2. Materials & construction.

All differing types of pickup have their own voice which is usually arrived at via material, component & construction methods.

Ex. There a several types of wire in which to wrap a coil.

Ex. There are several types of coil.
Ex. The magnetic wire can be wrapped in different ways, loose, tight, uniformly wrapped (usually by machine), scatter wound (usually handwound) etc.

Ex. A HB pickup can be unpotted or wax potted (dipped in wax) to reduce feedback/hum further.

The type of wiring to the pots can have an effect, vintage cloth/braided wire for example.

The pots in SC & HB pickups are rated differently, 250k to 500k & can vary in quality, as can the capacitors.

Ex. Humbucker, single coil, stacked single coil, open, closed, covered uncovered.

What you put these pickups in matters, for example...

A Fender Telecaster can sound great with just 1x single coil (SC) 2x SC, 1x SC + 1 Humbucker (HB) or 2x HB.
Results can also be good with Gretsch Filtertron SC or TV Jones SC pickups.

A Les Paul will only ever sound right with 'Buckers (HB) a humbucker being designed to 'Buck or reduce hum at volume.

Similarly an ES type guitar, think 335, 345, 355 as used by artists as varied as Jazz, blues & rock genre guitarists like George Benson, Eric Clapton & BB King, Dave Grohl etc, only sound right with Humbuckers.
In fact, those guitars are only routed for humbuckers.
Jazz guitarists are known to prefer ES type semi-solid guitars, some of which do employ a SC pickup.

Humbuckers are generally speaking more powerful than SC pickups & have a darker, often smoother, buttery flavour, especially in the neck position.

Very high powered & active HB pickups are generally the reserve of very heavy rock & metal guitarist's with the ability to push a valve amp way beyond, think lot's of high pitched harmonics, wide fret bends, long sustain etc.

Here is a TV Jones pickup as often fitted to Gretsch guitars

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& here is a Les Paul with obligatory HB's loaded yesterday

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& a Telecaster with unusual Minibucker neck, SC middle, HB bridge arrangement today.

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So that's pickups (roughly) covered, or uncovered, wax potted, series parallel, out of phase, reverse polarity, or whatever flavour you want them in.

Then there is guitar construction, timbre selection, luthiers etc.

Could the Waters get any more Muddy ?

:music:
 
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r04DiE

300km a week through London on a road bike.
This is all great but still nobody has told me how to prolong my sustain. I hear that Mr Moore used to find the sweet spot on the stage that gave him feedback from the amp, and get to that position when he wanted a prolonged sustain. I'm too stupid / lazy to take the time to work all that out so can somebody tell me if there's some sort of effects pedal, or oojamacallit to do the job for me?

Thanks.
 

raleighnut

Legendary Member
This is all great but still nobody has told me how to prolong my sustain. I hear that Mr Moore used to find the sweet spot on the stage that gave him feedback from the amp, and get to that position when he wanted a prolonged sustain. I'm too stupid / lazy to take the time to work all that out so can somebody tell me if there's some sort of effects pedal, or oojamacallit to do the job for me?

Thanks.
To get true sustain you need something which is going to keep the strings 'excited' and vibrating. That's why 'controlled feedback' works, it also helps if you have a 'gate' limiter in the pedal array.

Carlos Santana is the absolute master at this though. :becool:
 
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