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Shed Dweller
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- Wrexham
Cycling gear been washed on a hot wash or new gear ?
Have I shrunk?
- Thread starter Matthew_T
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Matthew_T
"Young and Ex-whippet"
- Location
- Prestatyn, North Wales
I'm currently in the process of making a little video of myself in each position on the bars on both bikes. Hopefully I can get some helpful advice from here as to where I am going wrong.
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Matthew_T
"Young and Ex-whippet"
- Location
- Prestatyn, North Wales
fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
- Location
- South Manchester
Your saddle heights are quite different on both. Get the tape measure out. The Muddy Fox looks too low.
- Location
- Shrewsbury, Shropshire
^^^ This. It looks between half and 1 inch too low to my eye.
The Muddy Fox does look like it is a longer reach Matthew. It's probably that you feel it more now that you are getting used to the Specialized.
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Matthew_T
"Young and Ex-whippet"
- Location
- Prestatyn, North Wales
Yes, I thought that too. I ride the Spesh pretty much everyday and only ride the Fox twice a week at the most.
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Matthew_T
"Young and Ex-whippet"
- Location
- Prestatyn, North Wales
TBH I find that the lowered seat on the Fox helps with the reach. It used to strain my back trying to get on the drops and get the brakes.
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Matthew_T
"Young and Ex-whippet"
- Location
- Prestatyn, North Wales
Some people on YT have advised that the problem might be the stem, so I will find out what size the current one is and buy a new one accordingly (probably end up with the same one on the Spesh).
- Location
- Shrewsbury, Shropshire
That would definitely do it. Having another look at the video it also looks as though the Muddy Fox has a longer stem than the Specialised. Changing it to a shorter one could make the difference you're looking for.
Edit: posted at the same time you did.
fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
- Location
- South Manchester
Altering the saddle height between the two is not good they should be the same. Alter the reach with a new stem. The saddles should be the exact same height. This is also a likely cause with your foot problems etc.
Get the tape measure out on each bike and write them down.
Get the tape measure out on each bike and write them down.
fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
- Location
- South Manchester
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Matthew_T
"Young and Ex-whippet"
- Location
- Prestatyn, North Wales
I will have tom manage with the Fox on tomorrows commute but then I have a whole week to fiddle about and fix things.
fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
- Location
- South Manchester
You will also need to measure top tube lengths as well as stem. My two road bikes have a 3cm longer reach than my fixed, but that was deliberate. Saddle heights are exactly the same.
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Matthew_T
"Young and Ex-whippet"
- Location
- Prestatyn, North Wales
Okay, I have done some measurements tonight. I measured my Spesh stem at 110mm, and the Muddy stem at 130mm. The measurements are probably wrong but the difference is correct.
Length from top tube to seat post:
Spesh - 500mm
Muddy - 570mm
Seat height:
Spesh - 200mm
Muddy - 270mm
Handlebar width:
Same for both.
Brake lever reach (from top of hood to where the bar it flat):
Spesh - 130mm
Muddy - 160mm
There are some quite big differences and I think that the first step is to get a new stem.
Length from top tube to seat post:
Spesh - 500mm
Muddy - 570mm
Seat height:
Spesh - 200mm
Muddy - 270mm
Handlebar width:
Same for both.
Brake lever reach (from top of hood to where the bar it flat):
Spesh - 130mm
Muddy - 160mm
There are some quite big differences and I think that the first step is to get a new stem.
