Have you ever considered what it would be like to be a member of the opposite gender?

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I'm still in shorts now (3/4 lengths anyway), though I did put longs on to take my wife to lunch today. Can't be putting anyone else off their food.
I've been told by her that the designer stubble thing suits me. Unfortunately with it she then refuses to kiss me 'cos its horrible and scratchy.

I like being a bloke, but I have wondered what sex is like as a woman as its always looked like the few women partners I've had are having an, errr.. more intense enjoyment of it than me.
I'm sure I've read somewhere of a school that is trying teaching girls/boys separately as they believe the genders learn differently so both sexes benefit.

Still, remember boys: the world is your urinal.
 

swee'pea99

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Fnaar

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I love wearing shorts

I'm another shorts fan... pretty much from April through to end of September (depending on temp of course). Except for work, where i wear a flowery M&S number
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User169

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I'm sure I've read somewhere of a school that is trying teaching girls/boys separately as they believe the genders learn differently so both sexes benefit.

Cordelia Fine....

"Those who promote single-sex schools may certainly have good reasons for their cause that have nothing to do with the brain. But promoting that cause by projecting gender stereotypes onto brain data is worse than useless....."

".....Vicky Tuck, while president of the Girls' School Association, UK, recently argued that there are "neurological differences" between the sexes that are "pronounced in adolescence." The practical implication? "You have to teach girls differently to how you teach boys."  Is she right? Remember how easily spurious findings of sex differences can lead to premature speculation. Remember what Celia Moore and Geert De Vries have pointed out-sex differences in the brain can be compensation, or a different path to the same destination. Bear in mind that neuroscientists are still quarreling over the appropriate statistical analysis of highly complex data. Recall that many sex differences in the brain may have more to do with brain size than sex per se. Remember that psychology and neuroscience — and the way their findings are reported — are geared toward finding difference, not similarity. Male and female brains are of course far more similar than they are different. Not only is there generally great overlap in "male" and "female" patterns, but also, the male brain is like nothing in the world so much as a female brain. Neuroscientists can't even tell them apart at the individual level. So why focus on difference? If we focused on similarity, we'd conclude that boys and girls should be taught the same way.

You're not convinced? You feel sure these brain differences must be educationally important? Okay, fine. Separate your boys and girls. Or, if you want to be really thorough, because there is overlap with these sex differences, strictly speaking one should provide separate streaming for, say, Large Amygdalas and Small Amygdalas, or Overactivated versus Underactivated Left Frontal Lobes. And now tell me how you tailor your teaching to the size of the amygdala, or to patterns of brain activity to a photo of a fearful face. There is no reliable way to translate these brain differences into educational strategies. It is, as philosopher John Bruer has poetically put it, "a bridge too far": "Currently, we do not know enough about brain development and neural function to link that understanding directly, in any meaningful, defensible way to instruction and educational practice. We may never know enough to be able to do that."  And so, instead, we quickly find ourselves falling back on god-awful gender stereotypes."
 
I read elsewhere that the development of the brain in different sexes and particular areas associated with certain reasoning in both sexes, develops at different ages. So at one point in time there will be differences in ability in one group or another which will be compensated for at a later point. On the surface this seems to make sense. Likewise it makes sense that there are observed differences in neural processing, what it means and whether it's significant is entirely another matter.
 

pepecat

Well-Known Member
Generally these days, 'sex' refers to one's biological chromosomes which determine one's genitalia and therefore whether one is male or female.
'Gender', however, refers to how far one ascribes to the so-called 'appropriate' behaviour for your sex - how far you act as masculine or feminine (according to how society thinks masculine and feminine should be).
So, you can be male, but not masculine, or female, but not feminine. (i.e sex and gender are not the same thing!!!) Some females do not identify as women, just as some males do not identify as men.

However......
Would i like to be a member of the opposite sex??
I could pee in the woods more easily....
Wouldn't have periods.....
Get to wear cooler clothes.... (can't be doing with skirts - yeuch!)
Could laugh loudly when i fart loudly....
Wouldn't have to apologise for not being tidy or forgetting birthdays...

But...
Have to shave every day.... - don't think I'd like a beard.
Man bits would get sore cycling......
I'd have to know how to fix things (instinctively)...

Don't think I would like to change sex really. I hate it at times, but i'll stick with being a female, who wears mens clothes from time to time (mens jeans fit me better!) and who doesn't act particularly feminine!
 

theclaud

Openly Marxist
Location
Swansea
What exactly are you disputing, that there's chemical differences or that those differences are not significant?

I'm saying that every time I've heard someone claim there's a study that shows some kind of significant difference between men's and women's brains, a closer look at it reveals that what it actually shows (if anything) is how little difference there is, and how little of any significance can be inferred from the differences that are found. But of course, "Scientists find that men and women are, well, pretty much the same actually" doesn't make the headlines, because it isn't what people want to believe. "Brainsex" is a bit like climate-change denial, in that it's slightly embarrassing how little they've been able to come up with considering how desperately they need it to be true...
 
I'm saying that every time I've heard someone claim there's a study that shows some kind of significant difference between men's and women's brains, a closer look at it reveals that what it actually shows (if anything) is how little difference there is, and how little of any significance can be inferred from the differences that are found. But of course, "Scientists find that men and women are, well, pretty much the same actually" doesn't make the headlines, because it isn't what people want to believe. "Brainsex" is a bit like climate-change denial, in that it's slightly embarrassing how little they've been able to come up with considering how desperately they need it to be true...

Well the only thing which seems certain is that there are neurological and chemical differences, the rest is just speculation and postulation and I've read some fairly ropey stuff too. It seems logical to me that the different body chemistry of men and women must make some difference, if only in developmental stages to how they act think and perceive, maybe learn, maybe interact, maybe .... It also seems obvious that there must be a wide variety of overlapping ranges just as there is with testoserone levels. So in conclusion, there is no conclusion.

Anyway I was just attempting to defuse some tension in the thread as well.
 

surfdude

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Location
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XmisterIS this has got a bit serious dont you think .bet you wished you never asked . standing up having a piss will do it for me every time but then i am a very basic bloke
 

snailracer

Über Member
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I prefer the company of men, usually. Not sure why. I suspect it's some form of cultural indoctrination that means most women don't like talking about the things I like talking about. They want to talk about celebrities and gossip and children. I want to talk about gear ratios, transmission components and science fiction.

Sam
As Homer Simpson said, "who doesn't?".
 

snailracer

Über Member
wow - started reading this thinking it was a bit of fun then got to Ravenbaits rant whoah neddy !


I'd love to be a woman just so that once a month I could be totally ready to fly off the handle at the slightest thing, be rude/aggressive without provocation - and then have a genuine physiological phenomenon to blame it on !

But I'm not at all cynical.


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Many men are like this all times of the month - it's called testosterone.
 
I'm very happy being a bloke.

Ladies, no offence, but I just can't figure out your thought process at times.

Venus and Mars I suppose.
 
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