He touched my car

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400bhp

Guru
2126181 said:
1. I do do it very occasionally and always conscious of the fact that I am bring rude in response to another rudeness.

2. Other than that I am only likely to touch people's cars to deploy a wing mirror for them and that usually by agreement.

3. I am not however playing Devil's advocate. I am trying to encourage drivers to think about what they do.

1. If I am reading correctly, then you only do it if someone has done a misdemeanor on the road (e.g cut you up, drove aggressively)? My one and only time I have held myself up on a car was at some traffic lights when the offending driver had passed me so close I could have been his passenger, :rolleyes:

2. Fair play.:thumbsup:

3. I'm not sure I understand that {encourage drivers to think about what they do}. Do you mean us drivers on CC or drivers in general for example, and how exactly are you encouraging drivers to think?
 

green1

Über Member
I'm not. The threats of violence came from Longshot and Green1. Lukesdad should know that.
Where? I said you'd end up on your arse, I didn't say how you'd end up there. I'd do that by leaning on your bike, which if you too lazy to unclip to put your foot on the ground will end up with you on the ground.
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
the words speak for themselves. Of course, it's not a worry, and, Reiver, you're absolutely right - it does demonstrate precisely that.
 

green1

Über Member
[QUOTE 2126218, member: 9609"]In all fairness I think it was more a figure of speech than an outright threat of violence. To me it just demonstrated what a decidedly odd relationship some people have with a lump of metal. respecting other people and their possessions.[/quote]
FTFY
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
I say, we're not going to come to blows over this are we?
scarcely - but
If you did that to my car you'd soon have your hand on the road, because I'd get out of my car and put you on your arse. Have respect for other people and that includes their property.
I think the phrase 'put you on your arse' is going to become a sort of touchstone. Something that comes up in conversation time and time and time and time again.
 

glasgowcyclist

Charming but somewhat feckless
Location
Scotland
Why do leaners get to decide whether the gaining of a benefit from their physical use of another's property is acceptable to that person or not?

Maybe those who don't have the skill to trackstand or the foresight to unclip should put the stabilisers back on.

GC
 
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That's better. Carry on :popcorn:
 

400bhp

Guru
2126372 said:
1 & 2 it appears we are pretty much in agreement.

3 Only here, or anyone I speak with in real life.

Thanks.

Number 3. How are you encouraging drivers to think?
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
If I think back to my balsa-soled Duegi shoe days I think we just took cars as part of the landscape. It wasn't a personal thing but almost the complete opposite. They were simply there. London's modern day leaners tend to be fixed riders who have a bit of a superior air about them, and, looking back, I suppose that in the early seventies we, likewise, did think of ourselves as Gods of the Road, and all that was around us was background music.

I think, as time has gone by, and cycling, the greatest constant in my life, has framed my outlook on the world, I've come to see cars as a bit of a nuisance, an intrusion in to public space, and I've left my leaning days behind me (with the exception of those glorious but frightening SPD-R moments when one discovers what it's really like to be at one with the bike). I'd rather not get involved except where the driver does something silly, or gets too close to the one I adore. Notwithstanding, when I see some trustafarian leaning on a car it does bring back happy memories.

It's not simply about the past though. In London we are the new Gods of the Road, sliding effortlessly through traffic or ambling happily down empty bus lanes while car drivers park and wait. The Fixieboys and girls, tweedybits, dyed hair, 'retro' frames (in reality grotty 80s steel jobs) and messenjah bags do the rest of us a service when they assert the new order of things.

And, yes, having thought about it some more, I do really think that a bit of leaning benefits the driver. It's that margin between human beings and things thing. I may even take it up again, as a kindness to some of our less fortunate citizens.
 

400bhp

Guru
[QUOTE 2126515, member: 9609"]I should have elaborated more; I wasn't suggesting drivers are not capable of thought, more that their thoughts are seldom on the road in front - most people drive on some sort of autopilot. If drivers concentrated as much on their driving as cyclists do on their cycling then accidents rates would plummet.[/quote]

Are accident rates higher in cars than in cyclists?
 
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