HGV driver deliberately swipes lane hog.

[steve50]

I just watched the footage, you can see the reflection of the cars indicator on the front on the hgv , it actually "looks" as though the car driver was in the process of / or about to pull over. The hgv driver was bang out of order and fully deserves to have his class one revoked, he crossed into the third lane and then cut back in far too early, very poor driving imo.
As for the driver of the car being a "nobber" as some of you would assume, I guess he would at that moment be bricking it and in a state of shock, i know I would have been having just been in a very close call with a 40 tonne truck.

 

[raleighnut]

When defending against a baseball bat get in very close as it's cumbersome and ineffective at close range. They'll then have at least one hand tied up holding it so you can defend yourself quite easily.

Yep, plus the fact that once it has been swung high they are off balance and can easily be overcome.

 

[Markymark]

Yep, plus the fact that once it has been swung high they are off balance and can easily be overcome.

Ideally you'll be in their face before or during the swing

 

[steve50]

[QUOTE 4035588, member: 9609"]what ? so they all have to travel at the speed of the slowest ! plenty now can sit on their limiter all day, why should they have to slow to 40 on hills. How about cars aren't allowed to over take each other either.

how much is your journey going to be delayed if you need to slow from 70 to 56 for a half a mile ? 7 seconds - set off a bit earlier [/QUOTE]

It can be substantially more than seven seconds though can't it, i have seen me stuck behind a hgv in the middle lane for up to twenty mins because the right hand lane has been busy, I can't get my head round why a hgv driver who's vehicle is restricted to 56mph decides to overtake another hgv that is also restricted to the same speed, i know some of the vehicles might have a little more torque but that does not equate to more speed at the time. All they do is hold up the traffic behind them for fifteen to twenty mins . I've even seen the overtaking hgv drop back behind the vehicle it was overtaking because the driver has tried to overtake for miles only to discover he hasn't got the speed or power to do it.

 

[jefmcg]

I agree with everyone that no matter how bad the car was being driven, it does not warrant the HGVs behaviour.

However, in this case, he actually says "I will follow until I see him being pulled over", but as he has a dash cam that he sells he actually means "until I get footage of him being pulled over". This whole incident seems like a blatant (and somewhat suicidal) attempt to get dramatic footage to put on his webpage/youtube channel to boost the sales of his shitty product. When that fails, he calls an ambulance and then the BBC to drum up publicity. While the HGV driver should probably lose his license, I hope the police stop apologising to Matthew Stockdale, and start talking to the CPS about criminal charges.

 

[steve50]

[QUOTE 4035611, member: 9609"]So in the first incident the car is travelling about 52mph, in the second incident he is travelling at about 52mph - going from the lat lon data we can see he has averaged 52.5mph over the 12.6 miles from first to second incident - why has he decided to drive at that annoying speed amongst all of the trucks who will be trying to sit on their limiters at 56mph - cameras to the front, side and rear, he is just looking for an incident to be involved in.[/QUOTE]

We will never know if he was looking for an incident to be involved in or not but if that was the case surely anyone with an ounce of sense would not try causing an incident with an hgv, the risks would be far too high.

 

[PeteXXX]

How so? I think you are muddling dangerous with frustrating. There's nothing dangerous by driving 50mph on a motorway. If someone cannot cope with meeting a driver at that speed they should hand their license back.

Dangerous, because it causes many more lane changes and unnecessary braking by others using the motorway correctly (not, I hasten to add, by the truck driver in the video)

 

[Markymark]

Dangerous, because it causes many more lane changes and unnecessary braking by others using the motorway correctly (not, I hasten to add, by the truck driver in the video)

Lane changing and braking is an expected skill in driving. As I say, if it causes anyone difficulty, hand your license back.

 

[steve50]

[QUOTE 4035621, member: 9609"]20 minutes stuck behind a lorry doing 56 - on one of these very rare events that would only be a maximum possible delay to yourself of 4 minutes and if you happen to get stuck behind a car doing 65 then the delay would only be just a tad over 2 minutes.[/QUOTE]

You wouldn't be saying that if you traveled the motorways round here pal, the volume of traffic and the number of hgv's on the M62 and adjacent M'ways is horrendous at the best of times, the M62 is fast becoming known as the biggest car park in the north. My longest delay stuck on the M62 was three hours stuck in over a 22 mile tail back of stationary traffic.

 

[Profpointy]

You wouldn't be saying that if you traveled the motorways round here pal, the volume of traffic and the number of hgv's on the M62 and adjacent M'ways is horrendous at the best of times, the M62 is fast becoming known as the biggest car park in the north. My longest delay stuck on the M62 was three hours stuck in over a 22 mile tail back of stationary traffic.

So 3 hours to do 22 miles: how does being "stuck" at 56mph have any bearing?

 

[Tin Pot]

Two idiots pick a fight on the motorway. My heart bleeds for them both.

 

[steve50]

So 3 hours to do 22 miles: how does being "stuck" at 56mph have any bearing?

Nothing to do with being stuck at 56mph, I was just stating I was once stuck in 22 miles stationary traffic for three hours, just making conversation , chit chat........

 

[Profpointy]

Nothing to do with being stuck at 56mph, I was just stating I was once stuck in 22 miles stationary traffic for three hours, just making conversation , chit chat........

fair enough - and doubtless very tedious. Creeping forward inch by inch is the worst, stuck stationary and having a snooze or reading a book for an hour isn't nearly as tedious

 

[Brandane]

Lane changing and braking is an expected skill in driving. As I say, if it causes anyone difficulty, hand your license back.

Just as long as the same applies to the morons in the middle lane who can't be bothered moving to the left, thereby causing others to change lane to the right.

 

[Markymark]

Just as long as the same applies to the morons in the middle lane who can't be bothered moving to the left, thereby causing others to change lane to the right.

Nope. Sticking in the middle lane is not dangerous. Changing lanes, when done properly is not dangerous. If you cannot change lane without casuing danger, then hand your license in.