Hi guys, just got a free bike off back street (ask home owner for permission) it needs fixing up but looks in decent enough condition

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Drencrom

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Normally you wouldn’t remove that bolt on a Tourney derailleur, standard practice at the shop would be to take the chain off instead. You’ll want to be doing this anyway to replace the rusty little bugger ( or at least give it a proper clean and soaking )

Tourney derailleurs, although total crap to a bike snob, are pretty bulletproof proof and will work acceptably well if anywhere near straight. If they aren’t straight they can take some horrible abuse if you want to just pull it straight gorilla style. Don’t bother with the ‘B’ adjustment screw, they do absolutely nothing even when new.

When reinstalling the chain make sure you route it through the cage properly, watching the little cross tabs, run the chain outside of one of these and you’ll have no end of weird shifting and grinding noises…. Although I’ve seen them work anyway.

Although it’s a cheap, cheerful and reliable piece of hardware Shimano really could do better for no more cost and should therefore be ashamed of themselves for continuing to sell this thing.

although not nearly as ashamed as they should be for Cues. No excuse there as it’s not as good as the stuff it replaced.

I thought it didn't come off after I read a reply on another post saying to take a pin out of the chain.


I'm gonna try and save the chain and if doesn't work. I'll buy new.
 

Ajax Bay

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Location
East Devon
Can I remove the rust from the spoke nipples?
I'm gonna get a bike pump and deflated the wheels. Can the displaced inner tube me mended?
I'm going off reviews on Amazon for the seat.
Nipples. not really. The rust will not affect their function - I can't see you trueing these wheels.
As said the tyres (well the section showing in the image you shared suggested) look OK. The inner tube comment was just that the valve had skewed right over, Expect the tyres and tubes will all be fine (think Webbo is being unduly pessimistic).
I would though pull them off and check the rim tape is satisfactory.
Finding a seat which suits you is tricky. I doubt Amazon reviews will add value (because anyone who buys a seat off Amazon will likely lack the knowledge to add value). Cycling sites will offer more knowledgeable reviews, written by people who have ridden many differtent saddles, but even then your backside is individual and it sounds as if you have scarcely ridden and don't know what sort of riding you're going to do on this bike.
My recommendation is to leave any seat replacement till after you've ridden the bike a bit.
This does not supersede my primary response which is not to waste money on this and find a better one to rescue. I've rescued maybe a dozen over the last few years and have learnt to be picky before parting with my cash at the recycling shop. Others' MMV.
 
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Sharky

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Kent
I thought it didn't come off after I read a reply on another post saying to take a pin out of the chain.


I'm gonna try and save the chain and if doesn't work. I'll buy new.

Have you split a chain before?
You're going to need to invest in some tools. If you haven't any to start with, a bicycle tool kit for about £40 will be a good asset.

You need a chain splitter to take the old one off and to resize the new one and if it doesn't come with a quick link, the change splitter can be used to rejoin a chain.
 
I was hoping I could source some parts on here.

The one on it is in good condition, just I find the seats really uncomfortable.

Someone said I might be disappointed in the padded saddles so I might just leave it be.

I won't be going on long rides.

Thing is, saddles are a very personal thing, and dependent on the shape of your body and the width of your sit bones. What's comfy for one person isn't necessarily comfy for someone else, and yes, padding is lousy, because you sink into it and then the stuff pinches you in places where you don't want to get pinched.

But before you start spending money on a new saddle, make sure the one currently on the bike is at the correct height and distance from the bars - because a badly-positioned saddle can cause you a whole world of discomfort. A lot are set too low. It's a tweak that takes you just a few minutes and costs you nothing to try.

For height, you want your leg fully extended while sat on the bike, with your heel on one of the pedals while it's at the bottom of its stroke. Using a chair back or wall to help support you works well. You may need to tweak a bit, but that will give you a good ballpark.

For distance to bars, you want the tip of your elbow to be against the saddle nose, with your middle finger on what is effectively the top of the forks (steerer). Again, that's a ballpark and may want some tweakage.

The last thing you might want to check is the saddle tilt. Ideally you want the saddle to be level, but some people prefer a little nose down. For instance, for me, it depends which bike I'm riding. On my road bike, I like my saddle to be nose down, but on my hybrid and mountain bikes, I like the saddle to be level.

I should add, I have the same saddle on all four bikes because it suits me.

I wouldn't buy a whole tool kit as has been suggested tbh. If you've a set of allen keys, a flat and phillips head screwdriver and spanners in the more common sizes, you should be able to do most of the jobs in hand. The exception is the chain splitter, and, if needed (it may not be) a crank extractor. But just buy the tool you need when you need it if you are intending on sticking to a tight budget. That said, good tools are never wasted.

For cost-effective tools and parts, if there's a Decathlon near you, they're definitely worth a visit. They're competitive in terms of pricing, and their own brand stuff pretty decent. You'll probably need to factor in a new chain, new brake blocks and new inner cables at the minimum if the bike's been neglected for a long time. And yes, twist shifters are non-serviceable, so if you do need new gear cables, you will need to buy the whole units.

But start with the simple things. A good thorough clean of the bike will tell you if there's anything major that needs doing. A wire brush, a can of WD40 or GT85 and a supply of rags are your friends here. And an old shoelace is great for getting the muck out of the rear gears.

FYI, my two mountain bikes were rescues from the sales area at the local tip. They both looked OK visually, but one needed a complete strip down and rebuild, and I ended up chucking about £400-worth of parts at it. The other just needed a clean and service.
 
Welcome to Cycle Chat! :hello:

In my experience, most libraries will have at least one book on bicycle maintenance in their catalogue.

There's also plenty of good tutorials on youtube.

Sheldon Brown's website is also a good (if somewhat nerdy) resource.
 
Have you split a chain before?
You're going to need to invest in some tools. If you haven't any to start with, a bicycle tool kit for about £40 will be a good asset.

You need a chain splitter to take the old one off and to resize the new one and if it doesn't come with a quick link, the change splitter can be used to rejoin a chain.

If you have dabbled in chains before, check to be sure you don’t have a master link or split link in the chain to ease removal.

time for some “you tube” research me thinks.

( and for those of you who minds went straight to the gutter when I mentioned “ dabbling in chains”… good for you! )
 

Punkawallah

Veteran
The wheels look in decent condition. Almost new. It's just the rust on the spoke nipples.

Scrub the rust with baking foil dipped in full-fat cola. Clean off the residue and use an (old) toothbrush to brush any type of oil on them. Don’t get the oil on the braking surfaces :-)
 

richardfm

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Location
Cardiff
And yes, twist shifters are non-serviceable, so if you do need new gear cables, you will need to buy the whole units.
It is possible to replace the cables on twist shifts. As long as they click through the gears ok there is no need to replace them.
If you are replacing the inners then it is worth replacing the outers as well.
If you don't have chain gauge to check for wear then it either buy one or just replace the chain (and cassette/freewheel).
You also need to check the hubs, bottom bracket and headset for wear/play.
Parktool has plenty of video showing you how to do this.
 
It is possible to replace the cables on twist shifts. As long as they click through the gears ok there is no need to replace them.

It is, when the bike's previous owner has cut the cable as it exits the bolt on the derailleur, and so there's NO adjustment :wacko:

But I'll hold my hands up if the more mainstream twist shifters are servicable - thing is, I ride junior bikes due to being somewhat, umm, undertall, and the cheap tat they fit to the smaller bikes definitely aren't. DAMHIKT. I've upgraded to trigger shifters on one, and have the parts waiting to be fitted for the other.
 
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