How to locate your cycling aches and pains...

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Archie_tect

De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
Location
Northumberland
I just sleep on it and find out which bits hurt in the morning.
 

Breedon

Legendary Member
i havent done any running for months, tried to run up to the top of our road i was knackerd half way up, couldnt belive it.

Might start it up again when i've done my over time
 
My psoas and lower back were always tight anyway so I can't really notice any difference.
I went to a dance rehearsal for my amdrams group last night, and was pleased that, despite leaking out my usual copious amounts of sweat, I didn't feel puffed at any point.
Getting onto the bike this morning for the work run, however, revealed stiff bits all over the place (except that one you filthy lot :smile: !).
What with cycling to work, sculling when I get the chance and kamikaze (by my standards and abilities) dancing, by the time we stage the show next March I ought to either be pretty fit or dead, one of the two:wahhey:
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
Not many leisure cyclists use their Psoas Major and Iliacus when riding, so I'm not surprised they hurt when a sudden change to running is made.
 
The psoas is one of the main cycling muscles - well that's what I've read. I get mine worked on by my osteopath fairly regularly and, apart from it being quite a weird experience, I experience much less tension in the lower back when they are not tight.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
Kirstie said:
The psoas is one of the main cycling muscles - well that's what I've read. I get mine worked on by my osteopath fairly regularly and, apart from it being quite a weird experience, I experience much less tension in the lower back when they are not tight.

Are you sure you've got the correct muscle group?

The Iliopsoas is the name of both these muscles because they conjoin on the front of the femur.
The psoas major is attached to all the lumbar vertebrae. With the Iliacus, they flex the femur forward with relation to the pelvis and spine.


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb6oNTkqxSc&feature=related



View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JovY7kZCJc8&feature=related


Have a watch of these.
 

Fiona N

Veteran
jimboalee said:
Not many leisure cyclists use their Psoas Major and Iliacus when riding, so I'm not surprised they hurt when a sudden change to running is made.

Of course, if you ride a recumbent, you have superbly developed hip flexors as they are used to lift the near horizontal, extended leg in a way not really comparable with riding an upright.
It's the main reason why fit upright riders jump on a recumbent and ride hard for about 30 minutes before the pain get to them :evil:

If you have flexible hamstrings, Kirstie, you'll need to be especially careful keeping the hip flexors loose too otherwise (as you probably have found out) they can cause lower back discomfort. My physio says it's a common for women with flexible hamstrings getting sacro-illiac problems (rather than lumbar spine disc problems) due to tight hip flexors pulling the pelvis out of alignment.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
Fiona N said:
Of course, if you ride a recumbent, you have superbly developed hip flexors as they are used to lift the near horizontal, extended leg in a way not really comparable with riding an upright.
It's the main reason why fit upright riders jump on a recumbent and ride hard for about 30 minutes before the pain get to them :evil:

If you have flexible hamstrings, Kirstie, you'll need to be especially careful keeping the hip flexors loose too otherwise (as you probably have found out) they can cause lower back discomfort. My physio says it's a common for women with flexible hamstrings getting sacro-illiac problems (rather than lumbar spine disc problems) due to tight hip flexors pulling the pelvis out of alignment.

Yup.

A newbie recumbent HPV rider will naturally want to push the pedal just like a diamond rider.
After a while, they learn that the 'complete' exercise is a full circle of torque.

I had the honour of borrowing a Windcheetah Speedy back in the nineties before MIRA converted it to electric drive. That trained my hams and leg flexors :smile:
Now I keep them up to scratch by powering round the full circle on my diamond frame bikes.

While I've been typing this, I've gone to find what's available from windcheetah,,,,

The HyperSport retails at £3375.... Hmmmmm....
 
jimboalee said:
Are you sure you've got the correct muscle group?

Yes I mean psoas major and minor, as per the diagram.

psoas.jpg
 
Kirstie said:
I get mine worked on by my osteopath fairly regularly and, apart from it being quite a weird experience

THis innocent statement just goes to demonstrate the guttural level my thoughts tend to run in, as I couldn't help an "oo-er missus" escaping from my brain and rattling around my head when I read it :smile: :biggrin:
 
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