"I can't help it if a cyclist falls over"

[glenn forger]

Depends how the question's phrased, would the answer be the same if you asked whether a cyclist on the wrong side of the road on a blind bend smashed into your mum crossing the road and killed her should the cyclist get away with no penalty whatsoever? Might get a different answer.

 

[GrasB]

But that's not the same scenario is it?.. We're talking about a motoring hitting a cyclist & killing them. An 'out group' member is the victim & the perpetrator is in the 'in group'. A cyclist hitting a pedestrian, no matter how similar the situation, is a different scenario as the 'in group' member is the victim.

 

[400bhp]

Just thinking about this in a different way.

Replace the two cyclists with a car.

Collision occurs. Car driver (not the accused) is dead.

Dead car driver has just passed her test and it was her first time on the road unassisted.

Would the outcome be different?

 

[numbnuts]

Just thinking about this in a different way.

Replace the two cyclists with a car.

Collision occurs. Car driver (not the accused) is dead.

Dead car driver has just passed her test and it was her first time on the road unassisted.

Would the outcome be different?

Possible, but if a person fell from a bridge on to the road and a car him/her and killed them who would be at fault, none of us were there and the woman is lying out of her teeth and she got away with it.

 

[glenn forger]

Possible, but if a person fell from a bridge on to the road and a car him/her and killed them who would be at fault, none of us were there and the woman is lying out of her teeth and she got away with it.

I don't get that comparison at all. If someone is driving on the wrong side of the roads and collides head-on with someone coming the other way in their lane then it's plainly careless.

 

[400bhp]

Possible, but if a person fell from a bridge on to the road and a car him/her and killed them who would be at fault, none of us were there and the woman is lying out of her teeth and she got away with it.

eh? Nothing like a valid comparison.

 

[ComedyPilot]

The scary thing is, this charge was decided upon because, guess what, juries are reluctant to convict under Death By Dangerous Driving. "There but for the grace of God".

"There but for the grace of god.........because we, like a lot of drivers in the uk drive like complete twunts, and could find ourselves in just such a situation where our dangerous driving could kill someone.....best let the killer off...."

 

[ComedyPilot]

Depends how the question's phrased, would the answer be the same if you asked whether a cyclist on the wrong side of the road on a blind bend smashed into your mum crossing the road and killed her should the cyclist get away with no penalty whatsoever? Might get a different answer.

NO they farkING SHOULDN'T

 

[ComedyPilot]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...killing-77-year-old-cyclist-with-Porsche.html

There but for the grace of god.....

 

[ComedyPilot]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-24240127

There but for the grace of god.....

 

[ComedyPilot]

http://road.cc/content/news/90037-d...ist-found-not-guilty-dangerous-driving-guilty

There but for the grace of god.....

 

[ComedyPilot]

http://road.cc/content/news/81530-s...who-admitted-killing-cyclist-taking-part-time

There but......

 

[ComedyPilot]

http://road.cc/content/news/81618-d...cyclist-hit-and-run-sentenced-five-years-four

For balance.


BTW, This happened a mile from where I was rehearsing one night.......

The All Party Parliamentary Cycling Group’s Get Britain Cycling report, published tomorrow, is expected to urge the government to get tougher on sentencing in cases in which cyclists are the victims, also the subject of a campaign launched last year by British Cycling and CTC, among others.

 

[ComedyPilot]

But that's not the same scenario is it?.. We're talking about a motoring hitting a cyclist & killing them. An 'out group' member is the victim & the perpetrator is in the 'in group'. A cyclist hitting a pedestrian, no matter how similar the situation, is a different scenario as the 'in group' member is the victim.

A right wing thug charged with racially aggravated assault tried by jury of white male skinheads.........

We wouldn't accept an 'in group' trying an 'in group', so why is it ok to do it for a cyclists death?

 

[glenn forger]

Didn't they have mono-racial juries in apartheid South Africa?