I dont understand some cyclist

[presta]

the second clip is for policies purchased or renewed after 30th April 2025

Is your "chosen destination" the destination you chose before the breakdown or after?

Given the "challenges" taking cycles on UK trains, I can see issues eg what if your cycle hasn't been advance booked on the service to get you home? Or what if the train station nearest your home is still some distance away (eg I like 10 miles from my nearest train station with no public transport) so arriving with a broken cycle.

What if you ask to go to the station, then find out you've missed the last train?

The advantage of not having insurance is that you don't have the inconvenience of having to jump through all their hoops aggravating all the hassle you're already lumbered with.

 

[Punkawallah]

Is your "chosen destination" the destination you chose before the breakdown or after?

What if you ask to go to the station, then find out you've missed the last train?

The advantage of not having insurance is that you don't have the inconvenience of having to jump through all their hoops aggravating all the hassle you're already lumbered with.

Therefore the cost of ‘science’ in this case is to £24. Pay the money, take the bike out, arrange a puncture and see what happens. Of course, for it to be ‘proper’ science, you’d have to report your findings.

 

[Dogtrousers]

Therefore the cost of ‘science’ in this case is to £24. Pay the money, take the bike out, arrange a puncture and see what happens. Of course, for it to be ‘proper’ science, you’d have to report your findings.

If it's proper science you're after, what you need is a double blinded randomised trial with some of the subjects on placebo insurance policies.

 

[presta]

If it's proper science you're after, what you need is a double blinded randomised trial with some of the subjects on placebo insurance policies.

There's no experiment needed, is there. If you don't take out insurance, it's a simple fact that you can't get dictated to by them.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

By jove. I saw a man out riding without his wheel building jig. Just this morning. What a wag.

 

[PaulSB]

Single colour, bright tops (Red, Orange, Brighter shades of green etc) seem to not be the norm when I’ve looked.

Hard to know if fashion dictates Black being sold. Or Black being sold dictates what we buy and wear. You’d have to presume manufacturers know what cyclists currently desire - and colour their ranges accordingly. Anyway - it’s not the most helpful for being seen either way 🙄

As long as I have been road cycling people have worn black, I don't think it's a fashion thing but perceived by the wearer as a cool thing.

Personally I'm an advocate of a strong, bright, single colour. I'm not an advocate of hi viz, I don't think it stands out as much as people might hope.

 

[brommieinkorea]

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Coffee / water / whiskey

Nice setup. But it brings up a legal question. In the USA, because of so many irresponsible twats, we have "open container" laws . Could this be the case in the UK ? Would a bicycle be exempt ?

 

[Dogtrousers]

Nice setup. But it brings up a legal question. In the USA, because of so many irresponsible twats, we have "open container" laws . Could this be the case in the UK ? Would a bicycle be exempt ?

Did a quick google for "open container laws" and they seem to prohibit drinking in public. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-container_law

As far as I know, there is no such thing in the UK. There are bans on drinking in specific places, subject to various bylaws or special orders. For instance, drinking is not allowed on London Transport services, and from memory this includes a reference to "open containers". I couldn't find a policy statement on the TfL website, but it has definitely been the case for over 10 years, probably longer.

Riding a bicycle while unfit due to drink or drugs is an offence under the Road Traffic Act. But I think you could safely transport an open container of alcohol. Well, relatively safely at least, the potholes may make you liable to spill a bit.

 

[Fastpedaller]

As long as I have been road cycling people have worn black, I don't think it's a fashion thing but perceived by the wearer as a cool thing.

Personally I'm an advocate of a strong, bright, single colour. I'm not an advocate of hi viz, I don't think it stands out as much as people might hope.

Last year (or was it the one before? ) I approached a 90-degree bend. Two cyclists were coming the other way, both with yellow jackets. They had just rounded the bend when a car came up behind them, and the driver slammed on the brakes. It was a 'close' thing........ and made me wonder if the driver had the memory of a goldfish because the road before the bend is straight for about a mile, and they must have been in his view for some considerable time!

 

[Alex321]

Nice setup. But it brings up a legal question. In the USA, because of so many irresponsible twats, we have "open container" laws . Could this be the case in the UK ? Would a bicycle be exempt ?

No, it isn't the case in the UK.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

No, it isn't the case in the UK.

We do however still have a number of irresponsible t***s anyway

 

[Dogtrousers]

It was really bugging me that I couldn't find any reference to the TfL no alcohol policy on their website. I'm sure you were all equally bugged. Well, you can all relax. I've found it. It's squirreled away in the Conditions of Carriage pdf here: https://content.tfl.gov.uk/tfl-conditions-of-carriage.pdf

2.5 On our buses, trams and trains, in our bus and rail stations and on tram platforms, you must
not:
• consume alcohol
• be in possession of an open container of alcohol

So now you know. What's tricky is knowing whether a particular station is a TfL station.

 

[Dogtrousers]

I know that on rail replacement buses alcohol is banned, this I found out after a particularly angry coach driver shouted at me for opening a can. When I got off I told him he'd probably be better off working down a mine as he'd meet less people to annoy him down there.

He was right, though https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/travel-information/rail-replacement-services/

You are not allowed to drink alcohol on rail replacement buses or coaches

 

[Webbo2]

He was right, though https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/travel-information/rail-replacement-services/

You are not allowed to drink alcohol on rail replacement buses or coaches

Yet on LNER first class you get free alcoholic drinks. On a trip back from my daughters who lives in Leuchars where we caught the train to York about 10ish, so you get breakfast or brunch with tea,coffee or fruit juice however one lady kept asking from about 10:30 when she could get a Gin and Tonic. Only to be informed when they start the lunch menu.
She did make up for once they’d started serving the alcohol.🍾🥂🍻🍷🍹🥃😉

 

[blackrat]

Beware of drunken cyclists on the road after getting the free alcohol on trains.