I really am starting to hate cars!

[Lonestar]

It's pretty strange people saying our public transport is a joke but isn't it worse in other countries?

 

[swee'pea99]

50? 5 might be nearer the mark.

Oh we'll certainly have effective driverless cars long before 50 years. I'm talking about the effective end of driven cars and the subordination of all traffic to The Fat Controller. That, I suspect, will take a good bit longer, tho' 50 years may be excessive. And yes

"I don't think people will own cars: why should they, if they can just order a driverless car to their front door, why would they keep one in their garage not moving most of the time?"

will probably be part of that.

Clearly the technical challenges involved are immense; clearly too, they pale in comparison with the political ones. But I suspect it will come in time.

 

[Markymark]

Public transport is great. I have access to tubes, buses, trains, river taxis even a cable car.

 

[ColinJ]

I think we will stop a lot of this whizzing about for the sake of it. Why go out to the shops when you can get stuff delivered to your door? Why travel miles to sit in an office to use a computer when you could easily have done it from home? And so on ... I'm not suggesting that people should NEVER do those things, but they don't need to do them routinely any more. I know people working for even quite conservative companies which are now happy to allow a lot more flexi-time and working from home.

 

[Deleted member 35268]

Are you being Sarkastic ?

Move to Sark then.

 

[Deleted member 35268]

Oooooh - sarky this morning aren't we?

Damn, beat me too it by a day and two hours and 10 minutes

 

[Markymark]

[QUOTE 4186417, member: 9609"]i would need to drive (or indeed cycle) 4½ mile to catch one of three buses a day. If I wanted to catch a train, it would be two buses and depending on connections could take me about 6 hours.[/QUOTE]
Yet another reason why London is proper awesome.

 

[tyred]

I think we will stop a lot of this whizzing about for the sake of it. Why go out to the shops when you can get stuff delivered to your door? Why travel miles to sit in an office to use a computer when you could easily have done it from home? And so on ... I'm not suggesting that people should NEVER do those things, but they don't need to do them routinely any more. I know people working for even quite conservative companies which are now happy to allow a lot more flexi-time and working from home.

I agree with you in theory but I think it is good for all of us, even someone like me who isn't particularly sociable to get out and about as much as possible and interact with the people we see along the way or risk becoming isolated and depressed. Yes things like facebook exist but it's not the same as meeting in real life.

 

[ColinJ]

I agree with you in theory but I think it is good for all of us, even someone like me who isn't particularly sociable to get out and about as much as possible and interact with the people we see along the way or risk becoming isolated and depressed. Yes things like facebook exist but it's not the same as meeting in real life.

Actually, I'm the same!

I compensate by organising forum rides and meet people that way instead. Which reminds me - I am supposed to be organising a ride to take place on 19th March so I had better get on with that.

 

[summerdays]

I agree with you in theory but I think it is good for all of us, even someone like me who isn't particularly sociable to get out and about as much as possible and interact with the people we see along the way or risk becoming isolated and depressed. Yes things like facebook exist but it's not the same as meeting in real life.

But I have to say I have so many more interactions on the bicycle than I do in any other form of transport. But I certainly agree about the staying in the house ... I can stay at the house pottering... yet enjoy it the minute I leave!

 

[tyred]

But I have to say I have so many more interactions on the bicycle than I do in any other form of transport. But I certainly agree about the staying in the house ... I can stay at the house pottering... yet enjoy it the minute I leave!

That is definitely true about cycling although a lot depends on where you are cycling! I just struggle to stay in the house a lot of the time unless I've found something to do which really interests me.

 

[speccy1]

Me and Mrs P have just moved house for a lot of the similar reasons to this.
We bought our first house by a road, it was relatively quiet and would be dead at night. Five years later there are trucks hammering down it all through the night, obligatory chavs in their lowered corsas until about 3am and scooters on their new small capacity learner motorbikes with tin can exhausts. It got to the point where we couldn't sleep.

Couldn't go into the back garden, it had began to sound like we were sitting next to the M4.

feck that.

Shame cos the old girl next door to us was the best neighbour we have ever had.

Thanks, I found your thread refreshing.

I`m glad I`m not over-reacting! I recently crashed over night with a friend of mine after a few sherries, he lives about half a mile away from me, and totally away from any main roads, it was a different world, I couldn`t believe how quiet life could be!

Thinking about it, there are other things I miss, like being able to sit out in the garden and have a quiet breakfast and a coffee, or a beer on a summer evening/afternoon - it`s too bloody noisy, it`s like sitting on the hard shoulder of the M1 LOL!

Perhaps I should sell up.................

 

[Stephenite]

Thanks, I found your thread refreshing.

I`m glad I`m not over-reacting! I recently crashed over night with a friend of mine after a few sherries, he lives about half a mile away from me, and totally away from any main roads, it was a different world, I couldn`t believe how quiet life could be!

Thinking about it, there are other things I miss, like being able to sit out in the garden and have a quiet breakfast and a coffee, or a beer on a summer evening/afternoon - it`s too bloody noisy, it`s like sitting on the hard shoulder of the M1 LOL!

Perhaps I should sell up.................

I'm with you. Cyclechat should move to the north of norway. I'm serious.

£25000 will get you something like this:

Edit: the house for sale linky is here - http://m.finn.no/realestate/homes/ad.html?finnkode=69665808&fks=69665808

Edit again: Might be too near the road though!

 

[slowmotion]

Public transport is great. I have access to tubes, buses, trains, river taxis even a cable car.

...and rickshaws.....

 

[slowmotion]

I'm with you. Cyclechat should move to the north of norway. I'm serious.

£25000 will get you something like this:

Edit: the house for sale linky is here - http://m.finn.no/realestate/homes/ad.html?finnkode=69665808&fks=69665808

Edit again: Might be too near the road though!

The polar bears banging on the windows at all times of the day and night would drive you potty.