Pale Rider
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Offering on road cycling - or driving - tuition to others rarely goes down well.
So.... a cyclist filters down the centre of two lanes of stationary traffic and then moves to the left at the front of said traffic in order to turn left at a roundabout.
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I could read it either way. It sounds like something the OP wouldn't consider doing at all though. Often it makes sense for me to filter and right hand side of traffic is pretty much always safer so you end up judging the traffic and working out what car is doing what and where the safe spaces are. Agreed it would be rare (extremely rare, I can't think I've ever done it) for me to cut across the first car in a queue as I'd expect them to be doing a lot more than bothering about looking out for me so it wouldn't be safe. But if they were obviously hanging back and it wasn't a busy roundabout I guess I might (not to turn left though, that would be bad manners, ignoring any safety issues).I read it as 'cyclist filters down centre of two lanes' (doing well so far) 'and cuts across traffic to turn left without indication, if driver had not been on the ball then result is splatted cyclist'. If a cyclist filters at a roundabout they better get into a decent gap BEFORE they get to the roundabout, doing it in front of the last car when the driver is looking right to pick a gap to accelerate into is not sensible at all.
Because to do so is arrogant and hubristic.Offering on road cycling - or driving - tuition to others rarely goes down well.
I seriously think that is how one interoperates it like many of ours laws etc. they need to be better defined imo.I always took that to mean poses a danger to you. After all, http://highwaycode.info/rule/147 tells you not to get involved when you think someone else is making a mistake.
Read it again more carefully and you'll see that that proviso applies only to the bit about using the horn when stationary or at night.Perhaps the last line may be it "when another road user posses a danger ?
Yeah, i used to think this too, but investigators after serious accidents - who always have the driver as a witness, and not always the cyclist - find it's usually the driver's fault, not the cyclist's.no wonder cyclists get killed and injured
It is quite common that I will filter on the right and move across when the traffic creates a gap. Someone beeping me would also get a 2 finger salute...or something similar.
Read the OP again more carefully and you'll see that they were "stuck" when using the horn.Read it again more carefully and you'll see that that proviso applies only to the bit about using the horn when stationary or at night.
Stuck in slow-moving stop-start traffic doesn't imply that he was stationary. In any case, we're talking about restrictions on use of th horn, not a special licence.Read the OP again more carefully and you'll see that they were "stuck" when using the horn.
Did the OP need to warn the cyclist of his presence? No; (1) she obviously already knew he was there or she would have ridden into him instead of round him; (2) he sounded the horn after she had executed the manoeuvre not before, so it was a bit late anywayUse only while your vehicle is moving and you need to warn other road users of your presence. Never sound your horn aggressively.
If the OP was stationary, then this is another reason he shouldn't have used the horn. If the OP was moving (and assuming it wasnt a built up area at night), then the section doesn't apply. But he still shouldn't have used the horn because he was not using it to warn her of his presenceYou MUST NOT use your horn
while stationary on the road
when driving in a built-up area between the hours of 11.30 pm and 7.00 am
except when another road user poses a danger.
I'm not saying the OP is right either, but it sounds like he's a bit "out there" tooDrive/cycle like a tit and expect someone to use their horn. It's how it is, no matter what the rules say.
I'm not saying that it is right, just that is how it is out there!
Sound your horn at cyclists and expect to get a D-lock through your window!Drive/cycle like a tit and expect someone to use their horn. It's how it is, no matter what the rules say.
I'm not saying that it is right, just that is how it is out there!