I see Clarkson's getting a bit more publicity...

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Mad Doug Biker

Just a damaged guy.
Location
Craggy Island
No excuse for his train suicide comments !!

In India, they just pick the body/remains up and take it to the next station to be off loaded. The trains are not canceled for hours on end whilst the Polis or whoever clean every single molecule of tissue off the track with a toothbrush, lest some old granny should see it.

The first comment about shooting people, yes, I could see that was a load of bollox, but the train one? he was just complaining that the trains are delays disproportionately all becuase some selfish twat decided to jump in front of a train.

In any other country, they just carry on, but not here, no, everything is treated like a crime scene, and woe betide you if you actually want to go anywhere before a week next Tuesday!
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
It was a joke and that is clear to anybody who actually heard the whole thing. The miserable mealy-mouthed humourless people who have chosen to be outraged are part of the problem in this sad, depressed country; they really need to step back and look at the bigger picture.
 

asterix

Comrade Member
Location
Limoges or York
It was a joke and that is clear to anybody who actually heard the whole thing. The miserable mealy-mouthed humourless people who have chosen to be outraged are part of the problem in this sad, depressed country; they really need to step back and look at the bigger picture.

No, it's the bullies who abuse the power that they have that are part of the problem in the UK. The newspaper magnate's and their lackeys including the columnists whose talent is so mediocre that they resort to shock tactics to get attention. Maybe there is a place for this squalid sort of 'entertainment' just as there may be for pornography but neither are appropriate for the programme on which this fool* was appearing.

*Cameron's court jester
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
I like this comment from today's Telegraph:

The irony here is that Clarkson, as a BBC employee, is himself a public sector worker. His Top Gear programme makes millions of pounds in sales for the corporation, which was doubtless the reason he was invited on in the first place. Why was he asked for his opinion about the strikes, if it were not to elicit a controversial response? Unfortunately, what ensued yesterday was another of those periodic bursts of phoney moral outrage that show this country at its most joyless.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
I'm a public service worker and I could't care less about his opinion. I don't take him seriously and I don't think he takes himself seriously, the only difference between us is that he makes a LOT of money by speaking his mind, I tend to get disciplined.

+1 Anyway, if you saw his facial expression when he said 'that comment' you could see he was joking. God, top gear is full of comments like that. He is a prat, but I like him.
 

swee'pea99

Legendary Member
I like this comment from today's Telegraph:

The irony here is that Clarkson, as a BBC employee, is himself a public sector worker. His Top Gear programme makes millions of pounds in sales for the corporation, which was doubtless the reason he was invited on in the first place. Why was he asked for his opinion about the strikes, if it were not to elicit a controversial response? Unfortunately, what ensued yesterday was another of those periodic bursts of phoney moral outrage that show this country at its most joyless.
Good grief - I agree 100% with the Daily Telegraph. I need to go & lie down.
 
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User482

Guest
It was a joke and that is clear to anybody who actually heard the whole thing. The miserable mealy-mouthed humourless people who have chosen to be outraged are part of the problem in this sad, depressed country; they really need to step back and look at the bigger picture.
We're debating this on CA&D too. The guy who tweeted about blowing up Robin Hood airport was obviously joking too, and he was prosecuted!

The really sad and depressing thing about this country is that talentless idiots like Clarkson are given airtime at our expense.
 

swee'pea99

Legendary Member
Ok, for example:

"We see the same sort of thing in Japan. There never was a Mr Toyota who, since he was a small boy, yearned for the day when he could build a small family hatchback that never broke down. And you can scour the history books until the sky turns green but you'll not find any mention of a young Timmy Datsun who stayed up until ten o'clock, even on school nights, devising his plan for a car with two milometers.

Subarus are made by a romantic-sounding outfit called Fuji Heavy Industries. At night I bet the chairman sometimes forgets he has a car division. It'll be just another entry in his plofit and ross accounts.

The only Japanese cars with even a trace of humanity are Hondas, and there's a very good reason for that. There was a Mr Honda and he did have a vision when he was a small boy. Even today that vision still steers the engineers, and as a result there's a very definite correlation between the S2000 sports car and those early motorbikes. It's solely because of this link with the past that I like Hondas more than any other Japanese cars.

Of course, in Europe most car firms were started by a visionary. Lotus was kick-started by Colin Chapman, who liked things light and frothy. Jaguar was the brainchild of Sir William Lyons, who liked comfort and speed, with a low, low price. Enzo Ferrari wanted to make cars solely to support his beloved race team.

Most of these guys, and others like them, are remembered by sound-bite quotes. Ettore Bugatti, for instance, once said, 'Nothing is too beautiful or too expensive.' Enzo Ferrari came up with 'the customer is not always right'. And Colin Chapman summed up his philosophy thus: 'Simplify and add lightness.'

Mind you, he also said, 'You would never catch me driving a race car that I have built.' Which probably explains why Lotus came to be known as an acronym for Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious."

Wish I could write like a talentless idiot...
 
Don't moan - complain

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/
 
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User482

Guest
Ok, for example:

"We see the same sort of thing in Japan. There never was a Mr Toyota who, since he was a small boy, yearned for the day when he could build a small family hatchback that never broke down. And you can scour the history books until the sky turns green but you'll not find any mention of a young Timmy Datsun who stayed up until ten o'clock, even on school nights, devising his plan for a car with two milometers.

Subarus are made by a romantic-sounding outfit called Fuji Heavy Industries. At night I bet the chairman sometimes forgets he has a car division. It'll be just another entry in his plofit and ross accounts.

The only Japanese cars with even a trace of humanity are Hondas, and there's a very good reason for that. There was a Mr Honda and he did have a vision when he was a small boy. Even today that vision still steers the engineers, and as a result there's a very definite correlation between the S2000 sports car and those early motorbikes. It's solely because of this link with the past that I like Hondas more than any other Japanese cars.

Of course, in Europe most car firms were started by a visionary. Lotus was kick-started by Colin Chapman, who liked things light and frothy. Jaguar was the brainchild of Sir William Lyons, who liked comfort and speed, with a low, low price. Enzo Ferrari wanted to make cars solely to support his beloved race team.

Most of these guys, and others like them, are remembered by sound-bite quotes. Ettore Bugatti, for instance, once said, 'Nothing is too beautiful or too expensive.' Enzo Ferrari came up with 'the customer is not always right'. And Colin Chapman summed up his philosophy thus: 'Simplify and add lightness.'

Mind you, he also said, 'You would never catch me driving a race car that I have built.' Which probably explains why Lotus came to be known as an acronym for Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious."

Wish I could write like a talentless idiot...
A series of opinions masquerading as facts, copying and pasting of old quotes, and an old quip about Lotus someone else came up with. Oh, and a highly original joke about Japanese pronunciation.

Yep, talentless idiot is about right.
 

tyred

Legendary Member
Location
Ireland
The reason Clarkson markets himself so aggressively is plain to see - he's a shoot writer.

He may be opinionated and likes to wind people up (people who are stupid enough to allow themselves to be wound up) but I definitely wouldn't call him a shoot writer. I've read a few of his books and enjoyed them. The sales figures suggest others do too.

Have you actually read any of his books to come to this conclusion or are you just putting down someone who's world view doesn't match your own?
 
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User482

Guest
He may be opinionated and likes to wind people up (people who are stupid enough to allow themselves to be wound up) but I definitely wouldn't call him a shoot writer. I've read a few of his books and enjoyed them. The sales figures suggest others do too.

Have you actually read any of his books to come to this conclusion or are you just putting down someone who's world view doesn't match your own?

50 million Elvis fans can't be wrong?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
 
I was in and out hearing little bits of BBC Breakfast this morning - and I'm sure I heard the GMB Union fella say something about "...he should put his hand in his pocket and...". That's where all sympathy with the unionist point of view evaporated for me.

An unplanned remark is being used for a political point by people expert in exploiting such things. This is a war of words, opinions and pressure, and JC made the mistake of answering a question and trying to have some fun with it.

Those who never saw the show or have a vested interest will make the most capital. They will hear what they want to hear, or portray it how they require.
 
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