I thought I was meant to ride the bike?

[AndyRM]

Cheers for checking that I should've said.

Tight isn't the word it's like this things cold welded to the rim! haha

Oh man this sucks when changing tyres takes all afternoon and I am still not there.

The LBS saw from FB that I was struggling and said if I want to bring it round tomorrow, but I will feel a complete failure doing that.

Someone tyres are like that, for a combination of reasons.

Sounds like you've got a good LBS, I'd take that offer and ask them to talk through what they are doing. There are no stupid questions and it's better to learn now than be stranded 50 miles from home without a clue what you're doing. Not that that's ever happened to me of course...

 

[Johnno260]

Someone tyres are like that, for a combination of reasons.

Sounds like you've got a good LBS, I'd take that offer and ask them to talk through what they are doing. There are no stupid questions and it's better to learn now than be stranded 50 miles from home without a clue what you're doing. Not that that's ever happened to me of course...

Oh I have been stranded before it's not a nice feeling.

Just as my brother in law picked me up last time a cyclist stopped in his van and offered to help I was quite pleased someone stopped to bail me out.

 

[keithmac]

Cheers for checking that I should've said.

Tight isn't the word it's like this things cold welded to the rim! haha

Oh man this sucks when changing tyres takes all afternoon and I am still not there.

The LBS saw from FB that I was struggling and said if I want to bring it round tomorrow, but I will feel a complete failure doing that.

Don't worry about accepting help when it's offered!.

Spin the wheels slowly and check the bead is seated evenly all the way round.

 

[Johnno260]

Well I got the tyre off at last the rim spins bueautify without the tyre so it's 100% me.

What I am worried about is how am I meant to do this on the side of the road!!

 

[tallliman]

Practice unfortunately. I hate doing it but generally if you get decent tyres and remember to check for thorns etc. you shouldn't have to do it too often.

 

[vickster]

Well I got the tyre off at last the rim spins bueautify without the tyre so it's 100% me.

What I am worried about is how am I meant to do this on the side of the road!!

Eta cover to get you home

 

[Will Spin]

I've got so fed up with punctures recently that I've plunged into the unknown world of tubeless to see if that's any better!

 

[Johnno260]

I got them off (again) wheel rolls freely back on checked the beading, ensured there is no pinches etc reinflated same issue.

I have no idea now, rolling arrows are in the correct direction etc, rear wheel is better than the first attempt but bikes very unstable.

I will admit defeat here and probably take it to the shop, thanks for the advise everyone it's appreciated I just find it frustrating that I can't figure this out.

I feel pretty stupid that the most simple piece of maintenance and it's a struggle, I was ready to eBay the thing earlier as I was thinking if I can't repair this am I doing the right sport.

I suppose worst case if I get a puncture again is I can get the thing rolling and just take it slow and steady until I am home.

 

[boydj]

Sounds like you may not have the tyre properly seated at the valve. You need to push the valve up to seat the tyre at that point so that the reinforced area round the valve sits inside the tyre properly.

 

[Johnno260]

Sounds like you may not have the tyre properly seated at the valve. You need to push the valve up to seat the tyre at that point so that the reinforced area round the valve sits inside the tyre properly.

OK I will try that as it seems simple.

Would I not see a bulge if it was sitting too high?

 

[Bazzer]

What @boydj said.

You might not see a bulge as the difference between a seated rim and non seated rim might only be a few mm. But that can make a huge diference when the wheel is spinning quickly.
It can be easy to overlook. But once you have fallen foul of it a couple of times, you learn to make sure it is seated properly before you put the wheel back on.

 

[Johnno260]

If I push the valve up, won't the nut pull it back down when I tighten it?

Sorry if I am being dense.

Also at low speeds the wheels are both fine, it is at higher speeds the wobble happens.

 

[Bazzer]

If I push the valve up, won't the nut pull it back down when I tighten it?

Sorry if I am being dense.

Also at low speeds the wheels are both fine, it is at higher speeds the wobble happens.

Push the valve up and seat the tyre against the rim properly.* If you use the knurled fitting (nut), it will seat the inner tube between the tyre rims. If you are riding a road biker the nut is unnecessary IME as the pressure of air achieves the same outcome extending it slightly from the rim and keeping it in place, or if you get a flat, the road surface does the same job.

The wobble will be more pronounced at higher speed because of centrifugal effect. The same effect can be felt in a car. You can happily drive at 20mph with most unbalanced wheels, but at motorway speeds you would probably be a danger to yourself and others.

Edit
* If you cannot get your pump on the valve, simply push it from the tyre once the trye rim is seated.

 

[Johnno260]

ah ok cheers, I will remove the nut but I will keep it to hand, I was using it as a means to grip the valve before I had the tyre and tube fitted properly.

 

[Bazzer]

ah ok cheers, I will remove the nut but I will keep it to hand, I was using it as a means to grip the valve before I had the tyre and tube fitted properly.

I use the knurled fitting on my hybrid which has schrader valves to stop the valve from disappearing as the width and depth of the tyre doesn't keep the valve in place at lower pressures. It is not a problem on my road bike which has much narrower wheels. You should find the same.