I thought I was meant to ride the bike?

[Johnno260]

I use the knurled fitting on my hybrid which has schrader valves to stop the valve from disappearing as the width and depth of the tyre doesn't keep the valve in place at lower pressures. It is not a problem on my road bike which has much narrower wheels. You should find the same.

OK cheers mate, so glad I found this community as everyone is so helpful.

 

[Johnno260]

I tried again, refit the tyre and pushed the valve in I did it gently until I felt a slight push on the tyre.

Same issue the wheel feels totally unbalanced, I tried a test ride in case I was being overly sensitive but I can feel the wheels bucking, I have zero cornering confidence.

I will take it to the shop now, it's late and I don't want to start being heavy handed.

Tempted to go on a basic maintenance course that another shop offer, LBS doesn't do them but he is happy for me to drop the bike off when needed for beer and biscuits.

I suppose if it happened while I was out on a ride I can get the tube in to get home, just very slowly, I will ask the shop what I had done wrong as I want to learn.

 

[classic33]

I tried again, refit the tyre and pushed the valve in I did it gently until I felt a slight push on the tyre.

Same issue the wheel feels totally unbalanced, I tried a test ride in case I was being overly sensitive but I can feel the wheels bucking, I have zero cornering confidence.

I will take it to the shop now, it's late and I don't want to start being heavy handed.

Tempted to go on a basic maintenance course that another shop offer, LBS doesn't do them but he is happy for me to drop the bike off when needed for beer and biscuits.

I suppose if it happened while I was out on a ride I can get the tube in to get home, just very slowly, I will ask the shop what I had done wrong as I want to learn.

There's no "dark art" to all this, and if the bike shop are worth it, they'll tell you without talking down to you. We all have to learn somewhere.

Why's the bike need beer and biscuits though?

 

[Johnno260]

There's no "dark art" to all this, and if the bike shop are worth it, they'll tell you without talking down to you. We all have to learn somewhere.

Why's the bike need beer and biscuits though?

haha damn they way I wrote that last part makes it look that way, bike shop must love me as I am keeping him in beer and biscuits.

This whole tyre malarkey feels like a dark art anyone who can do this quickly/easily is a wizard in my eyes.

Then again I think the same about all bike maintenance at the moment, like said earlier I was so frustrated I was ready to eBay everything and throw the towel in.

 

[classic33]

haha damn they way I wrote that last part makes it look that way, bike shop must love me as I am keeping him in beer and biscuits.

This whole tyre malarkey feels like a dark art anyone who can do this quickly/easily is a wizard in my eyes.

Then again I think the same about all bike maintenance at the moment, like said earlier I was so frustrated I was ready to eBay everything and throw the towel in.

The way you wrote that last part made it seem as though you were keeping the bike in beer and biscuits.

Just don't give up at the first hurdle. Give it a while, it never falls to anyone by chance. It's all learnt, one way or another.

 

[Johnno260]

The way you wrote that last part made it seem as though you were keeping the bike in beer and biscuits.

Just don't give up at the first hurdle. Give it a while, it never falls to anyone by chance. It's all learnt, one way or another.

Maybe I should try the beer and biscuit approach with the bike?!? lol I am willing to try anything at the mo!

 

[Salty seadog]

Detonators aren't the best. I have them on the Whyte. I have some replacement Vittorias for when the fairy first strikes

Marathon plus are another option if not having punctures far outweighs going quickly (e.g. On a commute)

yep, they were stock on my Montpellier too but I asked them to be swapped out for gatorskins which they did.

 

[Dan Morinary]

@Johnno260
Sorry if this is a stupid question, are you using correct inner tube? I only ask as my mate was having problems last year and I found he had been trying to run on 26 inch narrow tyres stuffed with an inner tube from 29 inch tyres, about the same width as a tractors.

 

[Southside Mike]

If you really can't ever have a puncture, these are actually very good. I ran the slightly wider Hybrid versions for a while.

http://www.tannus.com/

If you want a tyre which will nearly never allow an intrusion puncture, but don't mind them being a bit ' draggy '.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/schwalbe-durano-plus-performance-folding-road-tyre-1/

These are my weapon of choice.

If you want good speed and grip, but you don't mind them being as puncture resistant as a stripe of toothpaste. These are very good, but not as puncture resistant as they would like you to think.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/continental-grand-prix-4-season-folding-road-tyre/

These are the ones.

Just thought I'd mention that I've been using Continental 4 Seasons for 18 months on my commuter bike and had 2 punctures - both when hitting potholes in the dark. They're a pleasure to ride on and for me they have been fine as far as puncture resistance is concerned. They are also easy to put on.

 

[Racing roadkill]

Just thought I'd mention that I've been using Continental 4 Seasons for 18 months on my commuter bike and had 2 punctures - both when hitting potholes in the dark. They're a pleasure to ride on and for me they have been fine as far as puncture resistance is concerned. They are also easy to put on.

They are brilliant as far as performance and ease of release / replace go, but every time, without fail, I ride on back roads with them, I get an intrusion puncture. Different bikes, different tyres, brand new / old, front / back, I've found them to be no better than any other tyres as far as puncture resistance is concerned, except the Schwalbes, which have never had an intrusion puncture, with far more mileage, on the same roads. Obviously the Tannus solids couldn't puncture, so they don't count. I had yet another intrusion puncture on one of the bikes still shod ( not for much longer ) with the continentals, yesterday. I no longer care about the positive points with them, I commute at 04:30 ( ish ) in the morning, I haven't got time for messing about with puncture's, so the commute bike is going back onto Tannus tyres, and the long distance bike, is keeping the D+.

 

[Johnno260]

@Johnno260
Sorry if this is a stupid question, are you using correct inner tube? I only ask as my mate was having problems last year and I found he had been trying to run on 26 inch narrow tyres stuffed with an inner tube from 29 inch tyres, about the same width as a tractors.

Good call and that is something I would do, but they're the correct diameter and they're the right width as well, I took a wheel to the store to double check with them as well.

 

[Johnno260]

[QUOTE 4622641, member: 9609"]what a good idea to use the old ones as leggings.[/QUOTE]

haha I may try that!!!

 

[mjr]

Only do the valve nut up enough to keep the valve from hiding in the rim when attaching a pump head that pushes on.

I've seen enough reports from people I trust about Tannus handling oddly in the wet and cold that I'm staying with conventional tyres.

 

[Johnno260]

ohhh seems the shop found the issue, and it's something I should've mentioned, he said I had fitted to wheels/tyres fine.

it's in his opinion the tubes, they're the slime tubes he said the stuff tends to pool and make the wheel un-balanced.

 

[mjr]

they're the slime tubes he said the stuff tends to pool and make the wheel un-balanced.

Not used them myself, but I thought that happened only if it was left standing for ages?