In my eyes it is stealing.

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classic33

Leg End Member
Would you have been less or more worried had the same type of thing happened in your own home?
I've never been carried out of my home fastened to a spinal board. Fully immobilised. I've had it twice at work, where those doing the pinching didn't want to be caught.

Both cases went to court, a £1 a week payable in compensation, in the first one, the second the judge doubled the award when he learned I'd asked for any award to be given to charity.

Lying on a board, you get time to think whilst you stare at the ceiling.
 

slowmotion

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Never mind moral gymnastics, we've had a really good display of limbo. The bar was set pretty low.
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Accy cyclist

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As opposed to Robin Bastard who stole from the rich and kept it for himself.
That's still acceptable if you're poor yourself. You can develop a split personality and become both the thief and the receiver of the stolen goods. Stealing from the 'rich' isn't in all cases right as some 'rich' people have made their wealth themselves,but for example if you broke into Buckingham Palace and nicked some of Queenie's stuff to then distribute among the poor then to me that's ok.:angel:
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Most people steal from a retail environment to either sell for 10p on the pound to buy drugs, or to eat because they've spent all their money on drugs. Something like 80% of acquisitive crime is drug related.

They then stand in front of the magistrate and look all sad, and say that they only stole because they had no money for food. They conveniently forget to mention that The reason they had no money for food is because they spent their legitimate money on drugs, and the magistrates feel all sorry for them, they get a community punishment, they're released into the wild, and the circle of life continues.
 

MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
customers grazing is one thing... staff stealing is another. One supermarket i worked in, someone kept stealing the loo roll from the ladies* toilet... every day, without fail, a new loo roll would disappear.

*shouldn't it be lady's?
 

Joey Shabadoo

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When it comes to pick and mix, I think nothing of trying a couple before buying some in my local Wilkinson - even more so as I've made the mistake of not doing so and getting stale toffees that weren't chewy and tasted like site (yes they were ones that are supposed to be hard and chewy )

My niece worked in one of those stores and warned me never to buy the Pick n Mix after seeing the revolting things kids (and some adults) do with it.
 

ianrauk

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My niece worked in one of those stores and warned me never to buy the Pick n Mix after seeing the revolting things kids (and some adults) do with it.


Yet my partner works in 'one of those stores'. (not Wilkos) and from what she tell's me about the Pick A Mix (of which she is in charge of), your niece is exaggerating or worked for a store that did not look after the stock correctly with replenishment rotation or contamination. Ie no new stock to be placed in an old stock bin. Stock completely removed and replenished every couple of days. Any one seeing mucking around with stock ie tasting and putting back, the bin will be emptied, disposed of and replenished.
The amount of pick a mix that is thrown away after stock rotation is completely bonkers and the staff are not even allowed to have it. It is a disciplinary offence if any staff is seen eating any. Saying that. It is a very good turnover for the store.
 

MarkF

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Same as a laptop being nicked from an ambulance or a school then..awesome

Why didn't you go for the kill and say it's the same as stealing a blind man's stick?

I thought about the thread today, I was buying a £1.05 cherry tart and trying to pay at the self service checkout, the tart wasn't on the touch menu to choose from, to pay for it. No staff were around to help me, but a 53p mince pie was on the menu, That'd be about the same size & weight...............opportunity!:okay:
 
First of all, I'd like to apologise to the OP and others here who have posted on the original topic, which although in a way serious I think should have been taken a little "tongue in cheek" and not have been lowered to the point it has seemingly by offense being taken to things I've said by people who cannot just ask me to elbow ate or ask specific questions about why I have any opinions I may have stated..

Surely that is the wrong way around? Anyone that can afford a Rolls can obviously afford the minor increase in insurance premiums as a result of having it stolen off the driveway, whereas the manufacturer may become unprofitable if one too many of the product gets nicked and subsequently they call in the administrators, resulting in factory closure and immediate unemployment of the workforce, plus a slow and gradual knock-on collapse of related support industries, also leading to further closures and unemployment.

You have obviously never had your own, privately owned business. I have, and I can assure you that you are talking utter ballcocks! Theft is theft and it can hurt emotionally, financially and psychologically regardless.
If I took a pick'n'mix from Woolworths without paying I would be under no illusion that I was doing anything other than stealing!

If anybody has different opinions to me then that's fine, maybe I think your opinions are bolloX. I don't see what your points are here? I don't own a business, so should I not have an opinion, or not voice it, or ?? I also don't own my home, so does the same count for that?

I believe that anodes home should be a safe place where they are able to shut their door and be able to ignore the outside world if they so wish, I believe anybody that is willing to force way into another's home with bad intents wet her stealing or to hurt someone or other reasons is not a very nice person, and I'm sure there's instances where no bad intent that this could still happen, and I still think that's bad, and says a lot about the people willing to do it. The saying an Englishman's home is his castle etc.. I don't believe that anybody willing to steal from a home would see anyone there with more respect than a commercial or industrial setting.. I believe that breaking into someone's safe place where they live eat sleep with their family/children shows extra disrespect and ignorance to anyone involved, I could come up with numerous scenarios where I believe that the same crime could and probably would cause more hurt and non physical/non monetry ill effects.

I think to ignore any of these effects or to say they don't matter or are irrelevant is ignorant, and would seem to me that anyone saying so would mean they're saying that any crimes that don't include any loss of property/money or physical damage are irrelevant and not real crimes, many of such crimes cause people to get so low they commit suicide..

I think if people have a problem with what I say, then it's probably just the way in which I have written my comment and I will always answer any questions - but those questions would need to be asked rather than coming up with silly scenarios or calling me names or such.

Here are some questions which could help me see what anyone is trying to say when they disagree with me saying how I see circumstances behind a theft/crime and where those crimes are committed can change my opinion on how bad said person is/ how much I would look down at said person.

-do you believe all crimes are equally as bad as each other?
-do u you believe that all instances of any type of crime are equally as bad as each other?
-do you believe it's possible some people commit crimes out of desperation?
- if yes, can this affect how bad you see the person as being?
-can someone's actions, not causing monetary or physical implications still be criminal (better watch this answer)
- can someone actions if not causing damage or breaking a law still be bad where you would deem them as bad people?

Answer these and ill answer any back as to what I have said, I stand by it, I don't believe all stealing or criminal es of any nature are equal, I think private residence is a worse place to commit a crime than an commercial/industrial/workplace given the crime was to the same intensity..

If I haven't put this correct or missed something/ been unclear then ask or debate - no reason why anybodies opinion is any less important or need to say silly things..
 
I've never been carried out of my home fastened to a spinal board. Fully immobilised. I've had it twice at work, where those doing the pinching didn't want to be caught.

Both cases went to court, a £1 a week payable in compensation, in the first one, the second the judge doubled the award when he learned I'd asked for any award to be given to charity.

Lying on a board, you get time to think whilst you stare at the ceiling.

This is clearly sad, and I wouldn't wish such things to happen, or try to say there was any excuse - there are some jobs/places that are unfortunately more likely to get people hurt or involved in violent or criminal activities, it's part of the society we live in. You're speaking of what has happened to you, and it obviously has a place where it happened.. It doesn't in my mind relate to anything I have said being incorrect or such


-and it's shameful it happened at all. It shouldn't anywhere..
 

MikeG

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.......I just think I'm more honest about my thoughts on things, I think a lot of people think....that they are better...

You think you're better than others. Erm.........OK. Let's remember that for a second.

The whole thing about them believing they're better kind of proves their not in my eyes...........

Oooh, interesting.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
This is clearly sad, and I wouldn't wish such things to happen, or try to say there was any excuse - there are some jobs/places that are unfortunately more likely to get people hurt or involved in violent or criminal activities, it's part of the society we live in. You're speaking of what has happened to you, and it obviously has a place where it happened.. It doesn't in my mind relate to anything I have said being incorrect or such


-and it's shameful it happened at all. It shouldn't anywhere..
In both cases the people that put me on the backboard/spinal board were pinching "because they could", I got between them and their only way out.

It shouldn't happen, but everyday shop staff are injured because the person caught doing the pinching has kicked off, injuring them in the process. The seldom seen side of shoplifting. And very seldom factored into the equation.
 
Yes, it is interesting. If you're looking to pick holes in my words then go ahead, maybe you think you're better through being able to do that or through being able (or willing/wanting) to use words better/more correctly?

Maybe I should put it

Thinking you're better doesn't make it so... maybe even the opposite.

(Aimed at mikeg)
 
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I was once browsing in a shop where a guy walked up next to me, pulled a black bin liner out from his pocket, put a boxed microwave into it and walked calmly straight out past the cashier.. It took me longer to realise he had stolen it than it did for him to do it, and I had to think if I'd just seen what I had or not..

It's certainly true that some people make it into an almost art form in how they do it..
 
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