Increasingly disillusioned with the police.

[Cubist]

Yes 11%, not very much really, would get you bollocks all in the rreal world. Since a typical police officer will spend as long in retirement as they spent working, then unless your pension is going to be 11% of your average income then somebody else is having to cough up an awful lot of money ... Oh wait, that's probably the rest of us.

Don't you work 4 days on 4 days off ? That would be 180 days a year, sounds good, sounds very healthy.... Oh wait, I forgot the Holidays and sick leave, that should take you down to about 140 - 150 days per annum. That would be about 40% less working days than mr average.

4 on 4 off? No, you're thinking of the fire service.

Holidays. Yes, we get holidays. I get the equivalent of 26 days after 25 years service.

Sick leave? Are you suggesting that sick leave is an entitlement? Do that in today's police service and you'll find yourself subject to an Unsatisfactory Performance Procedure. In fact, if you have more than 10 days off or more than 2 separate periods of sick leave in a rolling 12 month period your line manager must initiate an action plan to reduce the amount of sick leave you take. And that is despite being put into a position where personal injury is a distinct possibility, and we are classed as "at risk" of common infections through the work we do.

If you can point to statistics rather than made up conjecture and ad hominem attacks on my honesty and integrity I will enter into more debate with you.

 

[Cubist]

I think I would quite enjoy it, I do know quite a few police officers and have worked with them (within Scottish Mountain Rescue) have often regretted not joining up.

And which figures are way off ?

Well, they weren't actually figures were they? They were just supposition and conjecture.

Scottish Mountain Rescue eh? That's a far cry from working in inner city West Yorkshire, and hardly a reasonable comparison with someone patrolling a challenging diverse neighbourhood on foot!

 

[Sara_H]

Just a quickie for anyone who replied and was interested in the outcome.

The Officer called me to say that e'd spoken to the driver who was unapolagetic and claimed he hadn't done anyting wrong. He said he hadn't seen the children, and didn't believe he'd got anywhere near them.

The officer told me that he has advised the driver to peep his horn in future when reversing along the pavement.

This prompted a discussion between myself and the officer, I personally don't think that a blast on the horn negates a drivers responsibility to drive safely, and I think the advice potentially puts pedestrians at risk for the convenience of the driver.

I've made a complaint about the way the police officer dealt with me in our initial meeting and about ther advice he's offered to the driver.

 

[benb]

Just a quickie for anyone who replied and was interested in the outcome.

The Officer called me to say that e'd spoken to the driver who was unapolagetic and claimed he hadn't done anyting wrong. He said he hadn't seen the children, and didn't believe he'd got anywhere near them.

The officer told me that he has advised the driver to peep his horn in future when reversing along the pavement.

This prompted a discussion between myself and the officer, I personally don't think that a blast on the horn negates a drivers responsibility to drive safely, and I think the advice potentially puts pedestrians at risk for the convenience of the driver.

I've made a complaint about the way the police officer dealt with me in our initial meeting and about ther advice he's offered to the driver.

Which was it? Those two can't both be true.

 

[Sara_H]

Which was it? Those two can't both be true.

Precisely.

 

[John the Monkey]

Eh? Driver reverses at speed along a busy pavement outside a school at home time causing children to flee for their safety.

This.

Bit surprised by the reactions to the contrary, tbh.

 

[siadwell]

Bit surprised by the reactions to the contrary, tbh.

I think the other reactions were along the lines of "the policeman said he'd have a word, what else do you expect?"

Seems like the policeman had the wrong word...

 

[swee'pea99]

Just a quickie for anyone who replied and was interested in the outcome.

The Officer called me to say that e'd spoken to the driver who was unapolagetic and claimed he hadn't done anyting wrong. He said he hadn't seen the children, and didn't believe he'd got anywhere near them.

The officer told me that he has advised the driver to peep his horn in future when reversing along the pavement.

This prompted a discussion between myself and the officer, I personally don't think that a blast on the horn negates a drivers responsibility to drive safely, and I think the advice potentially puts pedestrians at risk for the convenience of the driver.

I've made a complaint about the way the police officer dealt with me in our initial meeting and about ther advice he's offered to the driver.

Good for you. Well done. I too have been amazed by some of the responses on this thread. If what you say happened did actually happen, and I have no reason to suppose otherwise, the WVM was totally out of order, the officer even worse, and the powers that be should be coming down on both like a ton of bricks.

 

[diapason]

Hope you get a good response from your complaint. That officer needs to be put right before he does more damage - both to the public and to the reputation of his Force.

 

[Sara_H]

Heres where it happened:

The scene!

He'd reversed on where the dropped kerb is then swung round to park where the silver car is.

The police tell me that some of the area in front of the houses is private land, and it's not illegle to park there with the owners permission, I dont have an issue with that, but the dangerous way he got there!

 

[diapason]

It look pretty lethal to try to park there: it looks like the silver car is illegally parked too - obstructing the pavement.

 

[Silver Fox]

Congestion outside schools at drop off / pick up time is a problem. During the course of your complaint you may wish to suggest the local bobbies visit the area at the relevant times and issue fixed penalites to illegally parked vehicles.

 

[LosingFocus]

Congestion outside schools at drop off / pick up time is a problem. During the course of your complaint you may wish to suggest the local bobbies visit the area at the relevant times and issue fixed penalites to illegally parked vehicles.

Ha ha, the Slummy Mummies will be in a panic over that!

 

[Sara_H]

It look pretty lethal to try to park there: it looks like the silver car is illegally parked too - obstructing the pavement.

Well as I said, the police officer say's it is actually legal to park there as that part of the pavement is private land belonging to the houses.

So parking there is legal, if you cross the pavement safely to get there.

 

[diapason]

I would be interested to see proof that it is legal to park on the pavement, and how that part of the pavement is privately owned. If it is, then, surely all the cars will park there to avoid the yellow lines?

(My guess would be that the yard behind the dropped kerb is privately owned and the owner has the right to drive - safely - over the pavement to access it)