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Irresponsible Dog Owners!

Discussion in 'Commuting' started by hoppym27, 22 Feb 2018.

  1. OP

    hoppym27 Well-Known Member

    Maybe I could have dismounted...unattached my pump from the frame mounting...screwed in the hose thingy to the end...sucked up water from a neaby puddle and squirted it at the dog...like a mini water cannon....

    (whilst not commenting on the dogs looks - that would be offensive...apparantly)
  2. Mort

    Mort Interstellar Overalls

    There are some rather strange posts on this thread. If you have a dog that you can't control, and which might attack someone (or even just run up to a child who isn't happy around dogs ) you should keep it on a leash. If a dog attacked me of course I would give it a kick. Alsatians are big, strong dogs and they can do someone a serious injury.
    Last edited: 22 Feb 2018
  3. queasyrider

    queasyrider Still perplexed

    I act as if everyone on a cycle path is going to be an inconsiderate nobber - cyclists, pedestrians and dogs/walkers, toddlers on bikes. Tbf very few really are.

    I did run over a small dog, not on a lead, a couple of weeks back. It ran across the path, which was marked with separate lanes for cyclists and walkers, and gave me no time to stop so I made the instant choice that, rather than possibly fall off myself or possibly hit pedestrians, by trying to avoid it, I would not swerve. I did apply the brakes but still ran straight into the dog. It yelped and lay there for a while, but then got up and went to its owner. I was expecting some grief off her, but was pleasantly surprised when she apologised profusely and asked me if I was OK.

    Sad to say but these things happen, and always will happen, on shared paths.
    Last edited: 22 Feb 2018
  4. Jody

    Jody Über legend of a forum GOD!

    I had a friend who literally had a chunk taken out the back of his leg by such a dog. Cost him a month in hospital and more than one skin graft. There are good reasons why police use this type of dog.
  5. confusedcyclist

    confusedcyclist Über Member

    I own an Alsation, and if he ran after a cyclist snarling, I wouldn't be surprised or angry about someone trying to defend themselves with reasonable force. I'd be more angry at the dog. Probably would have kicked it myself on behalf of the cyclist (kidding!).
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  6. Not really relevant, but I used to know someone who had an alsatian that was scared of wet grass. He'd sit in the back of their estate car looking fearfully out. "I can't go out there. That grass is wet"
  7. Heltor Chasca

    Heltor Chasca Out-Riding the Black Dog

    I have had the good fortune of being bitten by many breeds of dogs mainly due to cycling home from school in lands further away than these and being amongst communities with very different attitudes to canines than our western ideologies.

    My favourite collection of bites were received when I crashed on some dusty single track (ok footpath) outside a sprawl of a colonial mansion. Two dobermans got out and had me for lunch. A passer by scared the dogs off and I lived to tell the tale right here on Cycle Chat.

    My second favourite incedent was when I fell off a farm fence I was climbing at 6 o’ clock in the morning. I won’t tell you why. Sadly I fell into the wrong property and got attacked by two guard dogs (yellow labs) they tore most of my clothes off.

    Lovely stories hey?
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  8. benb

    benb Evidence based cyclist

    Why are people conflating the OP's reasonable and justified self-defence against a dog attack with cyclists' responsibility to cycle safely round pedestrians (and dogs) on shared use paths?

    The OP was not guilty of cycling selfishly round pedestrians (or dogs) so why is that being raised?
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  9. OP

    hoppym27 Well-Known Member

    Just to add...I love Alsatians, they are on a par as my favourite dog along with sausage dogs.... but you have to remember they are dogs bred hundreds of years ago to protect livestock from wolves and other predators and sometimes regardless of how well natured they are their instinct kicks in... like my instinct to kick the dog in this instance...i made a split second decision that I wasnt able to outrun this dog up a hill and it was only a matter of seconds before it sank its teeth in..so i defended myself with the minimum force I felt was necessary....my anger that I felt was for the owner..not the dog....the owner was stupid/naive/irresponsible to think it would just stand there and ignore me cycling past
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  10. Jody

    Jody Über legend of a forum GOD!

    We are on about dogs biting and the OP is specifically on about Alsatians. I would say it has some relevance. They will make more of a mess than a yorkie or a pug.
  11. I meant that my story about the alsation who was scared of wet grass wasn't really relevant. I can see the relevance of your post.

    (I'm sure he'd have gladly bitten my face off had it not been for the dreaded wet grass)
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  12. OP

    hoppym27 Well-Known Member

    A yorkie or a pug wouldnt have hurt me to the extent this dog would have but it could have got caught up in my wheels and caused itself some damage....

    note my thread is called irresponsible dog owners..not All dog owners...
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  13. Jody

    Jody Über legend of a forum GOD!

    My bad. Apologies @Dogtrousers Just re-read it when not on the phone :rolleyes:
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  14. gavroche

    gavroche Getting old but not past it

    North Wales
    I believe self-defence is still legal in this country and that's what the OP was doing. It doesn't matter if it is a dog or anything else. I fell off my bike a while back because of a dog running loose . I gave the owner a piece of my mind then for not having it on lease. I , too, love animals, but they should be controlled in public places.
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  15. confusedcyclist

    confusedcyclist Über Member

    Better be, or I might be in trouble for shooting all those EVIL pigeons on my route home from work. It's a right pain when they shite on your bike.