Is it against the law to flash your lights to inform of speed traps

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Cycling Dan

Cycling Dan

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For all you know, sunshine, I might not even have a car.
Riiiiiiiight!

Comon man. Im trying to keep this to speeding, not opening doors to myths :stop: :laugh: .
 

classic33

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Maybe it's just me but you have not exactly been clear on what you have said. Now I understand mobile as in it moves around not a mobile checkpoint as in checking for mobiles. I was convinced you were trying to write in riddles before.
I don't know what they check for at these checkpoints however we are talking about speeding so if they don't check for speeding why exactly bring it up.
By the way I like trains.
Providing speeding is something they check, like a camera set up before the point.
"How can getting someone to slow down, actively help him speed". Logic being that you have informed the driver of the checkpoint which would have caught him speeding providing he was speeding. So now the driver has got away with speeding and wont face the consequences he would have if you did not help him avoid being caught speeding. Therefor you aided him in his offence of speeding as such to avoid detection. With your action you did exactly the same as the driver in the video only difference being you used hand actions since you were on a bike.
I don't even know what his speed was, so neither you (who wasn't there) nor I (who was there) can say that he was speeding. My action in signaling the way I did actually got him to slow down when he passed me. Before the speed limit changed & before the mobile road block. You really need to check what is actually checked at these mobile checkpoints & their purpose, before passing further comments on them.
Both of us were familiar with that stretch of road, in both directions, so both of us were aware of the speed limit change & where that change actually took place and where it was enfocable from. Not the same point on the road.
 

classic33

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You don't like the answer you resort to low level insults. Who's the troll?
OR were you referring to your own question!

I'd also run a spell check before posting it may help eliminate some of your own errors, or creating further confusion!
 
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Cycling Dan

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You don't like the answer you resort to low level insults. Who's the troll?
OR were you referring to your own question!

Nope, we are talking about speeding and helping people avoid being caught.
In a nutshell you said
"Hay guys I told a fellow to slow down using hand actions as the coppers where out".

A checkpoint could be doing anything, I don't know what but you brought it up in a thread about speeding so it would be safe to assume hay must be speeding. Turns out its possibly not and your original post was irrelevant.
Seems very much that through the original comment you supported the actions of the driver in the video as you do it yourself.
Yer that sounds like troll bait to me.
Im not going to bother reply again, your post was irreverent to start with.
 

classic33

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Nope, we are talking about speeding and helping people avoid being caught.
In a nutshell you said
"Hay guys I told a fellow to slow down using hand actions as the coppers where out".

A checkpoint could be doing anything, I don't know but you brought it up in a threat about speeding so it would be safe to assume hay must be speeding. Turns out its possibly not and your original post was irrelevant.
Yer that sounds like troll bait to me.
As I've said check what they, An Garda Síochána, check for at their mobile checkpoints. Then come back and tell me if I'm wrong with what I've posted on this thread.
Your assumptions are a little of the mark to say the least!
Question:
What does the vertical movement of the right arm extended actually indicate.
 

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When I drove to work, I used to use the Chelsea Embankment. Every once in a while, the Police would set up speed traps near Chelsea Bridge, loitering behind the plane trees with their radar guns. One evening on my way home, I caught a glimpse of HiViz behind a tree a few hundred yards ahead, just as a huge lorry came up behind me at 45 mph. I pulled out into his lane which led to much flashing of headlights in my mirror and some aggressive tail-gating but be both managed to sail gracefully past The Furtive Enforcer at 29.5 mph. I'm not sure if I broke the law but the big truck came alongside at some red light a bit later. He tooted his horn to gain my attention and stuck a very large thumb out of his cab. I rather enjoyed the episode. Am I a very bad person?
Why would you want to prevent him from getting caught? Have you ever seen the damage a speeding truck can do when it hits something?
 
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Cycling Dan

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As I've said check what they, An Garda Síochána, check for at their mobile checkpoints. Then come back and tell me if I'm wrong with what I've posted on this thread.
Your assumptions are a little of the mark to say the least!
Question:
What does the vertical movement of the right arm extended actually indicate.

From a quick check it seems health checks on cars. Then I bring back the question. Hardly anyone is irish here and without prior knowledge who knows what the checkpoints are for. You brought it up in a speeding avoidance thread.
What does the vertical movement of the right arm extended actually indicate
What you wrote exactly was Warning a driver I knew, of a Garda checkpoint, by moving my right arm up & down, slowed him down but got me stopped about 100 yards further on. So you were warning the driver of the checkpoint as stated by yourself! Mentioned in a speeding avoidance thread without prior knowledge of the checkpoint what do you expect people to think. I know for one I didn't Google it. I just assumed since you put it in this thread it was just you saying speed trap is a backwards way.
Which shockingly brings me back why bother posting that anyway since its not relevant?
I'm still stuck with the conclusion it was troll bait
 

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I'm sure it would be encouraging or assisting a crime
In my case with the speeding Chelsea trucker, I probably prevented him being nicked. But not certainly. That's not "encouraging or assisting" him to speed, merely discouraging him from being detected for a possible transgression. I'm a bit uneasy about the idea of being nicked for things that you might do. Has Thought Crime been passed by the legislature yet? BTW, an Irish trucker flashed us a couple of weeks ago in County Cork in our hire car. The speed trap was well hidden but we spotted it. I couldn't possibly say if we were speeding. Shall I walk to Hammersmith police station and turn myself in, just in case we were?
 

classic33

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@Cycling Dan
Strongly suggest you read before posting. No where in my first post, of which you have posted part, did I say that we were not headed in the same direction. Assumption, incorrect, by you.
You asked the question, I answered. You don't like the answer given/can't understand the answer given, so you resort to low level insults. You assumed, incorrectly, that because it was a mobile checkpoint, that they were checking for mobiles! Just passed that over to them and I'm not even going to print their response. Due to it being removed, because of the language.
 

classic33

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In my case with the speeding Chelsea trucker, I probably prevented him being nicked. But not certainly. That's not "encouraging or assisting" him to speed, merely discouraging him from being detected for a possible transgression. I'm a bit uneasy about the idea of being nicked for things that you might do. Has Thought Crime been passed by the legislature yet? BTW, an Irish trucker flashed us a couple of weeks ago in County Cork in our hire car. The speed trap was well hidden but we spotted it. I couldn't possibly say if we were speeding. Shall I walk to Hammersmith police station and turn myself in, just in case we were?
No need, the English Police can't deal with such traffic offences committed in the Republic of Ireland. They'd have to go to the Garda Commissioner and see what he felt.
 
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Cycling Dan

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In my case with the speeding Chelsea trucker, I probably prevented him being nicked. But not certainly. That's not "encouraging or assisting" him to speed, merely discouraging him from being detected for a possible transgression. I'm a bit uneasy about the idea of being nicked for things that you might do. Has Thought Crime been passed by the legislature yet? BTW, an Irish trucker flashed us a couple of weeks ago in County Cork in our hire car. The speed trap was well hidden but we spotted it. I couldn't possibly say if we were speeding. Shall I walk to Hammersmith police station and turn myself in, just in case we were?

Indeed you are not encouraging but could be assisting but its a dodgy one in the way its written in the legislation. As it could be interpenetrated in two different ways.
Idea being that you aided him in his crime/offence as you prevented him being caught.
There was something regarding possible transgressions as you put it but I cant find it.
Offences are covered in this law, which I double checked
I'm trying to find specific cases to see what the deal is.

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