GrumpyGregry
Here for rides.
In training for what.... some of them around here have made a career out of training.
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Cyclopathic
Veteran
- Location
- Leicester.
It's really no problem if common sense is used.
cd365
Guru
- Location
- Coventry, uk
[QUOTE 3116413, member: 45"]That's fair enough, I'm just interested in your reasons.[/QUOTE]
When I was a kid, under 10, I got stopped for riding on the pavement and was lectured at how dangerous it is for pedestrians when you cycle on the pavement.
That has stuck with me ever since and never rode on the pavement again.
When I was a kid, under 10, I got stopped for riding on the pavement and was lectured at how dangerous it is for pedestrians when you cycle on the pavement.
That has stuck with me ever since and never rode on the pavement again.
summerdays
Cycling in the sun
- Location
- Bristol
Most kids aged 10 nowadays are told by their parents to ride on the pavement. And if you ask them they will think it is quite legal to do so. I think the law at that point could be made clearer as to what age we think children should transfer to the road. Ask the average person on the street and you will get a whole range of answers.
cd365
Guru
- Location
- Coventry, uk
I can't remember exactly what was said, it just stuck with me and the fear of being caught by the local bobby back then led me to not do it again!
summerdays
Cycling in the sun
- Location
- Bristol
Well the local bobby won't be stopping a 10 year old now. I've spoken with various policemen about this and they usually say that below 16 they can't do that much since they can't issue a FPN. And if they were riding recklessly they would have a word with them.
What one did go on to say was that if someone was causing a persistent problem they would then approach the parents and eventually if that was ignored it would start to become more in the realm of maybe needing to possibly bring in the social services if they felt that the parenting skills of the child needed a little help. (That was at the extreme end of any action they would take.) And that was one specific policeman.
What one did go on to say was that if someone was causing a persistent problem they would then approach the parents and eventually if that was ignored it would start to become more in the realm of maybe needing to possibly bring in the social services if they felt that the parenting skills of the child needed a little help. (That was at the extreme end of any action they would take.) And that was one specific policeman.
cd365
Guru
- Location
- Coventry, uk
[QUOTE 3128841, member: 45"]That's fair enough, but I'd suggest that the fear was instilled in you with a lie.[/QUOTE]
Nope, the fear was real, he was a right mean barsteward and would have given me a back-hander if he caught me again! He was quite partial to given the local scallys a clip around the ear
Nope, the fear was real, he was a right mean barsteward and would have given me a back-hander if he caught me again! He was quite partial to given the local scallys a clip around the ear
raleighnut
Legendary Member
- Location
- One of the 'Elite'
We had one in Enderby just like that and you daren't tell your parents for fear of another.
cd365
Guru
- Location
- Coventry, uk
cd365
Guru
- Location
- Coventry, uk
Quite often I see middle aged men, cycling a bit quicker than pootling, older age teenagers hurtling along, people with no lights on at night deciding that it is unsafe to ride on the road so will use the pavement and nearly run you over because you can’t see them. I’ve seen whole families, mum father, two teenage children riding on the pavement, meaning pedestrians have to try and avoid them since they were riding two abreast. This lovely picture that you have tried to paint I haven’t witnessed.
When you are pulling a child, yes I can see why you would want to do that, no problem with that. Carrying? Do you mean in kid chair on the back of the bike? No problem with that. When escorting a child I would personally be on the road; each to their own.
I bet there are a lot of people with pushchairs, dog walkers, walkers who have a problem with a pushbike sharing their space. Yes it is their space since it is illegal to ride on a pavement; if they are not signed shared use then it is not ambiguous.
When you are pulling a child, yes I can see why you would want to do that, no problem with that. Carrying? Do you mean in kid chair on the back of the bike? No problem with that. When escorting a child I would personally be on the road; each to their own.
I bet there are a lot of people with pushchairs, dog walkers, walkers who have a problem with a pushbike sharing their space. Yes it is their space since it is illegal to ride on a pavement; if they are not signed shared use then it is not ambiguous.
Learnincurve
Senior Member
- Location
- Chesterfield
No one has a problem with it if it's a quiet pavement and you stop and let pedestrians walk past you or get off, wheel round them and start up again. I have learned from my shared tow path that pedestrians are idiots and not to be trusted. Must have met 6 people in half and hour who did not hear the bell or the loud excuse me and I've been force to get off and walk round them. Every Single Time I got a gasp of surprise when they clocked that I was there. On top of that you have the people coming towards you that think giving you an inch to get past them is enough, would you give a car or a motorbike an inch? No you wouldn't, you would step back you freaking morons.
spen666
Legendary Member
So do you regard all people who have hearing problems as idiots ?They will not hear you?
People are idiots because they do not hear something?
It could just be that you asre being unreasonable
summerdays
Cycling in the sun
- Location
- Bristol
It can be ambiguous as to where the shared space ends, in the centre of Bristol the area by the fountains is shared space, and so is Pero's bridge and the bit by the museums, is the bit between them, and where does the area end. If it ends by leaving the cyclist on the wrong side of the road then it's not surprising that some will carry on cycling until there is a safe place to cross the road. Or a map may indicate that an area is shared space or a cycling route but there aren't the signs. Some of the signs are also very subtle, for example in Queens Square, part of a cycling route on the pavement (as the road is one way the opposite direction at that point), and the signs are merely engraved on the pavement about 20 cm big. I didn't realise i could cycle there until another cyclist told me.
MontyVeda
a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
- Location
- Lancaster... the little city.
Lancaster & Morecambe seems to have more shared use paths than signs on the lamp posts, judging by the Council's cycling maps... and yes, where some routes end is ambiguous too.
Learnincurve
Senior Member
- Location
- Chesterfield
I'm talking about a shared tow path with bikes going up and down and lots of markings saying this is a public bridleway/bike path. My son is in a wheelchair, and we have never used his disability as an excuse for anything. If you can't hear the bikes bells/cyclists/horses/riders warning you and you do not have a hearing aid that people can see then it's on you to be acutely aware of your surroundings and do the simple, non-difficult thing of walking to the side of the path, or alternatively do as a lot of the blind do and have something clearly marking you as deaf a badge or sticker on your back would do it. I will always slow down or even stop when I come across people on the path, a 17 year old hoodie barrelling down and ringing his bell probably won't, anyone with a small amount of common sense and self preservation should know this, deaf or not.
