It's ok to cycle on the pavement if.......

[GrumpyGregry]

and the law prohibits fast heavy mobility scooters too I believe.

 

[benb]

Because the law prevents it?

The law also prohibits pedals without reflectors, but a lot of us think it's OK to flout that particular law.
Something being illegal is not sufficient to condemn it.

 

[Cyclopathic]

If people are allowed to use fast heavy mobility scooters on the pavement why can't considerate cyclists use that space too, if they feel a compelling need to do so?

Some of the newer mobility scooters are quite big, like a sort of tiny car. I think they are allowed to go at 8mph which is quicker than a lot of people might imagime especially on a pavement.

I can see that they might have been built large and sturdy so that they can when they have to go onto the road without being intimidated too much. Again if they are driven with care and courtesy they don't pose a problem but if not they can be a bloody menace. Just like people on bikes.

 

[spen666]

[QUOTE 3130732, member: 45"]I think we've concluded that there is sufficient ambiguity and discretion for that statement to not stand in totality.[/QUOTE]
There is no ambiguity, the law is clear. It is illegal to cycle on the pavement. There is no room for doubt in the wording of the legislation

s72 Highways Act 1835 is clear

If any person shall wilfully ride upon any footpath or causeway by the side of any road made or set apart for the use or accommodation of foot passengers.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . every person so offending in any of the cases aforesaid shall for each and every such offence forfeit and pay any sum not exceeding level 2 on the standard scale, over and above the damages occasioned thereby.

no room for doubt in that is there?

 

[spen666]

True, but the law can be changed.

but until it is changed, it is the law

 

[spen666]

The law also prohibits pedals without reflectors, but a lot of us think it's OK to flout that particular law.
Something being illegal is not sufficient to condemn it.

Who mentioned condeming anything? The question was why are you not allowed to ride on the footpath

 

[GrumpyGregry]

I may not have mentioned that our tow path is part of the Trans Pennine Trail and the canal trust actively encourages cyclists. In fact they travel up and down the path on bikes themselves.

I really genuinely don't understand why a few people here have problems with people riding on something clearly marked on maps and real life as a cycle path, at one point it even splits on to a wide nicely surfaced bit especially for us. Is it that people think you are a lesser cyclist if you don't ride on the road?

Noted.

The canal and waterway trust nationally actively encourages cyclists to use towpaths all over the country. But they don't have a legal right to do so. They may do so, only at the Canal & Waterways Trust's discretion and subject to certain conditions.

If the TP Trail is bridleway.... job's a good 'un. Legal right to ride.

 

[sidevalve]

Who mentioned condeming anything? The question was why are you not allowed to ride on the footpath

I would think the name FOOTpath is a clue. Besides as I've said before keep on pi---ng people off - that really is handing the ammo to the anti-cylist brigade on a silken cushion. I'm sure they'll love you for it.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

I would think the name FOOTpath is a clue. Besides as I've said before keep on pi---ng people off - that really is handing the ammo to the anti-cylist brigade on a silken cushion. I'm sure they'll love you for it.

Except it is more often colloquially called the pavement.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

The Police here all ride on the pavement.

Quite frankly, only a complete idiot would even think of doing anything against them if they were on the road!

 

[Cyclopathic]

but until it is changed, it is the law

One can choose to ignore it though without too many consequences.

 

[Cyclopathic]

but until it is changed, it is the law

Until fairly recently it was the law that all men over a certain age should practice archery on a Sunday. Just because it's the law doesn't mean it's fit for purpose or that not adhering to it is a bad thing.

 

[spen666]

Until fairly recently it was the law that all men over a certain age should practice archery on a Sunday. Just because it's the law doesn't mean it's fit for purpose or that not adhering to it is a bad thing.

Did I say it was fit to purpose or otherwise?

I merely stated what the law is

 

[shouldbeinbed]

PCSOs are in training... what one considers 'over-zealous' is simply them trying to do something they're not yet qualified for. So rather than thinking they're 'k**b head little hitlers', cut them the same slack one should give learner drivers, nervous 'newbie' cyclists and the shy teenager in Tesco with 'in training' on their badge.

No. PCSO is a separate job in its own right, not a precursor to promotion/qualification as a Police Officer. They are not warranted Police, sharing Pay scales and employment conditions with the rest of the support staff of a force not the same as those employed as Police Officers.

They are civilians with no more arrest powers than you or I and somewhat harshly are regarded as a yellow jacket deterrent without any power or oomph to actually do anything but listen and advise. Currently the job is a relatively new entity, given time it is totally possible people could spend an entire 40 odd year career as a PCSO.

 

[JasonHolder]

My atten to this. I'd like just to say that as my mother's family was German Jewish and pretty much all of her forebears were murdered in the holocaust, I find that extremely insulting, so please do not think such things are amusing. Grow up

Unfortunately for that^ not knowing if youre joking or not. my grand father was killed in one of the concerntration camps so settle down please! Or rather he fell out a guard tower in the middle of the night. Same thing though