It's ok to cycle on the pavement if.......

[Paul.G.]

Plod will have to catch me first

 

[Dragonwight]

That old chestnut... just pay up!

Ah if only, the DOB on the ticket is 1987 those were the days.

 

[spen666]

Always been the case:

......

sorry, but this is not true.

The law is clear, cycling on the pavement is an offence - no exceptions in the wording of the law, even for children.

What Paul Boateng did was to give guidance about how the law would be enforced. This does not change the law and you are still committing an offence if you cycle on the pavement.

Whether you are prosecuted or not for the matter ( prosecution includes the use of a FPN) is a seperate matter of the application of the public interest test.


Paul Boateng did not have the power to change the law

 

[spen666]

[QUOTE 3116027, member: 45"]Sorry, what Glen said is true. He said that it's always been the case that it's ok to cycle on the pavement if....

He didn't say that it wasn't an offence. The rest of your post is what we all already know.

That wig really is welded to your head isn't it?[/QUOTE]


No, it is not ok to cycle on the pavement!

It was not ok before Paul boateng made his statement a few years ago, and its still not ok now. Paul boateng had no power to over rule primary legislation


simple constitutional law point.

 

[spen666]

[QUOTE 3116038, member: 45"]It's not a point of law. It's permitted to cycle on the pavement in certain circumstances.[/QUOTE]
Erm if its permitted, then it is a point of law! The law prevents people riding on the pavement


I suggest you look up S72 of the Highways Act 1835 which makes it an offence to ride a bicycle on the footpath.

There are NO exceptions to this. The law is very clear.




As I have stated and you seem unable to comprehend, the fact someone may not be prosecuted for it does not make the act legal. That is a matter of the exercise of the public interest test, it does not change the law

 

[MontyVeda]

No, it is not ok to cycle on the pavement!

It was not ok before Paul boateng made his statement a few years ago, and its still not ok now. Paul boateng had no power to over rule primary legislation


simple constitutional law point.

this thread is discussing the guidance given as to when one should or should not be prosecuted or had-a-word-with... if a pavement cyclist is being considerate and cautious, no problem, if they're being reckless, then apply the law.

 

[spen666]

[QUOTE 3116057, member: 45"]The police permit pavement cycling under certain circumstances, as stated in the OP and by Glen. They allow it, they say it's ok. They make exceptions. You can't argue that this is not the case.

It might not be legal, but it's ok and permitted in the situations described.

Glen was quite correct.

Unless you're suggesting that the police don't permit pavement cycling in certain circumstances?[/QUOTE]


I am saying the police do not have the power to permit it.

They have the power to not prosecute someone.

The police do not have the power to over rule parliamentary legislation



As I said before, its a matter of law and its clear you do not understand the legal powers of the police or Paul Boateng

 

[MontyVeda]

I am saying the police do not have the power to permit it.

They have the power to not prosecute someone.

The police do not have the power to over rule parliamentary legislation

As I said before, its a matter of law and its clear you do not understand the legal powers of the police or Paul Boateng

it's also clear that you don't fully grasp the point of this thread Spen

 

[MikeonaBike]

Its not cycling on the footpath that irritates me, its people driving cars and vans on it, so they can use it as a car park. Nothing is ever done about cars and vans parked on the footpaths; how disabled folk in wheelchairs or mobility scooters manage I can't imagine. I recently complained to my local council about it but they couldn't care less.

 

[Profpointy]

[QUOTE 3116093, member: 45"]It happens, the police permit it. They've permitted it for years. They've told me that it's ok on many occasions. They go with the government advice. They make exceptions. They will continue to permit and allow considerate pavement cycling. It's ok.

I think one of the things you're mudding up is this - this isn't about telling people to get off the pavement but not prosecuting, this is about allowing them to continue riding on the pavement. It's fantastic.

If you have a problem with that I suggest you speak to the police, as you clearly disagree with what they're doing. Or you could stop being silly and support something that benefits our communities and will continue whether it twists your knickers or not.[/QUOTE]

please stop !

You're arguing the nuance of Permit with a capital, and turning-a-blind-eye-to , which I'll call permit with a small "p". I'm sure you both quite clearly get the others' point.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

[QUOTE 3116057, member: 45"]The police permit pavement cycling under certain circumstances, as stated in the OP and by Glen. They allow it, they say it's ok. They make exceptions. You can't argue that this is not the case.

It might not be legal, but it's ok and permitted in the situations described.
[/QUOTE]

I am saying the police do not have the power to permit it.

To get us over this little hump, could we agree that the police have the discretion to ignore the offence in certain circumstances?

GC

 

[Steady]

Its not cycling on the footpath that irritates me, its people driving cars and vans on it, so they can use it as a car park. Nothing is ever done about cars and vans parked on the footpaths; how disabled folk in wheelchairs or mobility scooters manage I can't imagine. I recently complained to my local council about it but they couldn't care less.

Irritates me to no end, once spotted a family in a Merc parked on the pavement only to then go and open the door and block the rest of the pavement whilst their precious one needed a nappy change (presumably outside their parents house) forcing an old bloke on a mobility scooter off the pavement with limited turning room to check the road was even clear and then with no access to rejoin until the next side road. Apparently the precious one needing a nappy change granted them immunity from how disgraceful they were.

I don't mind pavement cyclists, certain roads I think "Yeah, don't blame you at all" but then when I get to a quiet side street and I spot a pavement cyclist then it bothers me! I think the Police always try to make a 'show' of pavement cyclists in pedestrian zones in city centres, I just think there's more important things for them to do but the general consensus pavement cyclists are death wielders on wheels.

 

[Cyclopathic]

Speaking as a some time pedestrian, I have no problem whatsoever with people riding on the pavement if they are careful and courteous. Nobbers bombing along at speed is another matter.

 

[cd365]

Personally I don't think anyone over a certain age should ever cycle on the pavement.

 

[broadway]

Personally I don't think anyone over a certain age should ever cycle on the pavement.

That would be 90?