Jumping red lights

[JonnyBlade]

You didn't ignore it though, you replied saying you ignored it, hence acknowledging it.

Come on, you tried a puerile joke, it failed.

You're ignored too. LMAO you are in good company

 

[Red Light]

Mitigation is not the same as discression, but then I am sure you knew that. My gods you are a sad, sad little man.

Correct. You were saying you would use your discretion and hope mitigation would get you off. So would you rather stay on the right side of the law or use your discretion?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Correct. You were saying you would use your discretion and hope mitigation would get you off. So would you rather stay on the right side of the law or use your discretion?

I am saying that if my life would be endangered or I would hold up an emergency vehicle with blues and twos I would take the necessary action. Make of that what you will. Insomnia is a bitch, isn't it?

 

[Red Light]

Insomnia is a bitch, isn't it?

Is it? I sleep very well, I just don't need much of it.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Is it? I sleep very well, I just don't need much of it.

Good for you. Good bye.

 

[gaz]

The other day I filtered to an ASL, only to find there was no safe room at the front. Gliding carefully through the red light was the obvious, and safe, choice.

Other examples include when a car (or truck) is on your arse, or when you are intending to turn right on a busy road directly after a set of lights.

It's not the safest thing to do in either case. You should be looking at the ASL well before you are at it to see if it is clear to use. If it isn't then the safest thing to do is to slot into a central position in the lane behind a vehicle.

I don't see how a car or truck on your arse in any case is a reason to jump a red light. especially to turn right. How do you get across to the right with the other traffic crossing your path?

 

[Boris Bike]

<br />I read somewhere that the effort required to stop/start requires more exertion overall than keeping going through lights.

Yeah. It also takes more petrol to stop and start again, but you'd still expect motorists to stop.

 

[Boris Bike]

The other day I filtered to an ASL, only to find there was no safe room at the front.

So then you stop and wait until the lights turn green. It's not that difficult.

Unless you'd already pushed yourself into the junction?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Actually you're wrong. Both the examples given by angelfishsolo are 'lawful excuses' for failing to stop at a red light. Both have been held to be such by the courts

I doubt the veracity of the story you highlight.

Thank you User - I wasn't able to find the cases I was looking for last night so I had to rely on memory.

 

[BentMikey]

I'd love to see some definitive evidence either way, myself.

Otherwise I'm largely with Angelfishsolo - if I have to cross the stop line to avoid someone rear-ending me then I will. It won't be the first time I've been forced to do this.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

I'd love to see some definitive evidence either way, myself.

Otherwise I'm largely with Angelfishsolo - if I have to cross the stop line to avoid someone rear-ending me then I will. It won't be the first time I've been forced to do this.

I think it's a matter of "if obeying the law would cause you or another harm then break it". I can think of very few instances where that would be the case and so if those two RLJing examples are the exceptions to my rules then so be it.

 

[Red Light]

Actually you're wrong. Both the examples given by angelfishsolo are 'lawful excuses' for failing to stop at a red light. Both have been held to be such by the courts

Do you have anything beyond your say so?

I doubt the veracity of the story you highlight.

So the papers made it all up?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

So the papers made it all up?

You mean everything the press reports is true??????????????????????

 

[Tynan]

in ten years of London cycling I've never had to cross a stop line to avoid being rear ended

how do you know that someone's going to rear end you?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

in ten years of London cycling I've never had to cross a stop line to avoid being rear ended

how do you know that someone's going to rear end you?

I would guess if the Muppet is riding your back wheel. I have never had to do it either TBH but I would if the situation ever arose.