Sam Kennedy
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- Newcastle
Just been hit
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tongskie01
Active Member
- Location
- blackpool england
agree.++++
Vikeonabike
CC Neighbourhood Police Constable
- Location
- Bourne, Lincolnshire
In the majority of cases I think a person has to do something. This doesn't mean that you have to take "Physical Action". Sometimes just remaining calm and remembering a description / number plate etc. is enough. I have no choice. If I witness an incident I am DUTY bound to take some form of positive action (I would anyway). Again, this may mean simply acting as a witness, it may mean becoming more physically involved. By not doing so, I could at the very least be heavily criticised. At worst I could face disciplinary action. It doesn't matter whether I am on duty or off.
However a lot of incidents simply require members of the public to display some form of "MORAL" courage. Again, I don't mean that People need to put their own safety at risk by diving in and getting hold of some violent offender. Just simply saying. "I saw that, I will give a statement and I will give evidence in court" wold be more than enough. Too many people put their heads down and walk by thinking " It's nothing to do with me". The problem is, when that person becomes the victim they never understand why no one saw what happend to them. People did, it was witnessed, it's not their problem! The Public in general need to grow a set of balls and start doing what is right instead of doing what is easy!Stop winging and saying it's someone elses job. Start challenging unacceptable behaviour in public, don't take no for an answer. Give up 8 hours a month and become a Speacial Constable if you like but do something!
However, put your own personal safety above all else(with the odd exception).
However a lot of incidents simply require members of the public to display some form of "MORAL" courage. Again, I don't mean that People need to put their own safety at risk by diving in and getting hold of some violent offender. Just simply saying. "I saw that, I will give a statement and I will give evidence in court" wold be more than enough. Too many people put their heads down and walk by thinking " It's nothing to do with me". The problem is, when that person becomes the victim they never understand why no one saw what happend to them. People did, it was witnessed, it's not their problem! The Public in general need to grow a set of balls and start doing what is right instead of doing what is easy!Stop winging and saying it's someone elses job. Start challenging unacceptable behaviour in public, don't take no for an answer. Give up 8 hours a month and become a Speacial Constable if you like but do something!
However, put your own personal safety above all else(with the odd exception).
PBancroft
Senior Member
- Location
- Winchester
+1 Well said.
ComedyPilot
Secret Lemonade Drinker
- Location
- The Kingdom of Yorkshire
This is spot on and exactly the kind of attitude we need to adopt to stop ourselves being overrun by the scum/idiots of the world.
DrSquirrel
Guest
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Ok, I'll try that next time I am out and see someone using their phone - thanks.
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Go ahead - because that is exactly what he meant by it...
Ok, I'll try that next time I am out and see someone using their phone - thanks.
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Go ahead - because that is exactly what he meant by it...
Trevrev
Veteran
- Location
- Southampton
3 times i can remember in my adult life where i've stepped in, and got involved.
I'm going to bore you with the details.
1st:- Walking through Southampton city centre many years ago. A young lad about 13-14 threw his sweet wrapper in front of a council guy sweeping the floor. Demanded he sweep it up!
I had something to say to the cheeky little s**t. The lad then followed me through town while on his mobile phone........30 minutes or so later i'm surrounded by his older brothers and took a slap for being disrespectful.
2nd:- Driving home from work one night in rush hour traffic on a summers evening. Roads were rammed.
Saw a guy and a woman beating clumps out of each other at the side of the road. She had her top completely ripped off and had a very bloody and bruised face. He was covered in scratches.
I pulled over and tried to part them........They both turned on me and and got very abusive, telling me not to get involved it was their business.
I just let them get on with it, got back in my car out went to pull away........While i was doing that she thought it would be a good idea to kick a big dent in my door.
3rd:- Only last year, me and my wife were sat watching the TV, when we heard a commotion up the road. It turns out one of my neighbours had a drunken falling out with his "best"mate and were fighting in the street. Foolishly i tried to break it up and his mate gave me a Black eye for my worries.
So don't talk to me about Moral Courage, coz it ain't worth the effort.
And if you think i'm going to approch every driver i see with a mobile stuck to his ear think again.
I'm going to bore you with the details.
1st:- Walking through Southampton city centre many years ago. A young lad about 13-14 threw his sweet wrapper in front of a council guy sweeping the floor. Demanded he sweep it up!
I had something to say to the cheeky little s**t. The lad then followed me through town while on his mobile phone........30 minutes or so later i'm surrounded by his older brothers and took a slap for being disrespectful.
2nd:- Driving home from work one night in rush hour traffic on a summers evening. Roads were rammed.
Saw a guy and a woman beating clumps out of each other at the side of the road. She had her top completely ripped off and had a very bloody and bruised face. He was covered in scratches.
I pulled over and tried to part them........They both turned on me and and got very abusive, telling me not to get involved it was their business.
I just let them get on with it, got back in my car out went to pull away........While i was doing that she thought it would be a good idea to kick a big dent in my door.
3rd:- Only last year, me and my wife were sat watching the TV, when we heard a commotion up the road. It turns out one of my neighbours had a drunken falling out with his "best"mate and were fighting in the street. Foolishly i tried to break it up and his mate gave me a Black eye for my worries.
So don't talk to me about Moral Courage, coz it ain't worth the effort.
And if you think i'm going to approch every driver i see with a mobile stuck to his ear think again.
DrSquirrel
Guest
Maybe the street cleaner felt better that day because someone actually cared...
Did you call the Police for any of these?
Did you call the Police for any of these?
Trevrev
Veteran
- Location
- Southampton
No i didn't call the Police. I'm not into running to the police over what i class as minor issues. I chose to get involved and I took it on the chin !
Wasn't serious enough for me to go through all that claptrap.
Bruises heal, but it's still in your memory.
DrSquirrel
Guest
You think you did the wrong thing in intervening...
Yet you think the wrong thing is to call the Police...
So your suggestion is not to call the Police or intervene? What a wonderful ****ing country we have
Blood and bruises is minor? You're an IDIOT!
Trevrev
Veteran
- Location
- Southampton
We all have our own way of dealing with things. And you don't know me from Adam so who do the F**k do you think you are calling me an idiot!!!
DrSquirrel
Guest
A woman and man fighting, to the point of blood and bruises is too minor for the Police to get involved.... is crazy.
And all I know about you is you are just going to let this happen.... thus, idiot.
And all I know about you is you are just going to let this happen.... thus, idiot.
Trevrev
Veteran
- Location
- Southampton
Well, i clearly didn't let this happen.....I did my best to put a stop to it. But when these people are quite happy to beat the crap out of each other and get abusive when someone tries to stop it. Then they are best off getting on with. Did you not read my post.........Didn't i mention i stopped and tried to end it? In amoungst the 100's of cars around me i was the only one to stop!!
So i'm an idiot !
DrSquirrel
Guest
I know you said you tried to stop it.
But you are now saying you're just going to let it happen.
And now you're just going to be like the 100s of cars mentioned and not stop - so why try and even differentiate yourself between them and you now? Maybe they've had the same happen before to them - is it acceptable now that they didn't stop
