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summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
I wonder if the people who advocate intervention are those who are confident, authoritive and have an imposing, even intimidating presence if required.

Well I'm a female as and I said I have on occasion shook my head or said something, and I would not describe myself as having an intimidating presence nor any skills in martial arts. Sometimes I have thought after doing so that it could of taken a different worse course, and I'm not saying I would say something on every occasion.
 

Andrew_P

In between here and there
To be honest my instinct would take over when the first punch landed, however weak it was.

I got caught by a driver who I gave a "hand signal" too he had anchored on to avoid hitting me in a pinch point, it made me realise just how vulnerable I was on my bike, you cant jump in and lock you doors and race off, you have to face it. I was lucky, as he pulled up along side hurling abuse and saying I needed a slapping, as he un did his belt and started opening his door I leapt off my bike like a mad man heading round the back of his car he bottled it closed the door drove off 50 yards to then give me hand signals, which I consider myself lucky I did it because I realised very quickly when he was along side me that I had no where to go and if he was to get out then it would have to be fisty cuffs an no way could I afford to be caught on the back foot.

I now try as hard as I can to keep my head down and ignore the tossers, I am by dint of being on a road sitting on a bit of metal as vulnerable as I want to be and in future I have no intention of increasing this. For a week or so it also ruined my enjoyment of that open countryside stretch as it was in the back of mind if he was laying in wait to finish the job!
 
It's tricky........... like the OP says, some not fit person lands 3-4 punches on him.....you plant one good'en on the chin - out, smacks head on floor........... hmm..... had it been a young or fit person then they'd get a good smacking....... dunno.....

Legal system is against you...the scum have nothing to lose, those that behave do have loads to lose..........

I could not agree more
 

BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
You have a legal duty to prevent crimes from being committed, unless that puts you in any real danger.
For instance, a drunk trying to get in his car should be stopped but drunks tend to be very violent and you could be better off reporting it to the Police drink driving hotline, not doing anything makes you complicit.
 
I can't help feeling that if people get this overwhelming urge to play policemen then you should join the police and do it properly.

Unless something affects me personally I leave drivers and other cyclists well alone and just concentrate on what I am doing. If they want to break the law that's between them and the police.

I'll walk past next time someone is smashing your face in or breaking into your car/house etc etc...


But I can't help feeling that you could have avoided this had you ignored it and kept pedalling.

Unless your a police person on duty, it's not your place to tell someone else off for what they perceive as a white collar driving offence.

I tend ignore driver misdemeanours. I'm 6ft 2 and used to box, so I can look after myself. I just don't think it's my place to correct the ills of society.

It is our place actually, we have legal rights to make our opinions.

Letting other people "deal with it" is one of the "ills of society".
 

Andrew_P

In between here and there
There is a world of differnce helping someone under attack or a house being burgled to being on the bike and acting like a PSCO telling car drivers to get off the the phone. I mean do you have a death wish, and it would be interesting if you felt quite so strongly about it had you not been a member of this forum. This forum had a tempory effect on how I felt and dealt with the numpties out there and I felt it took me for my own personal safety down the the wrong road.
 
There was an horrific case a couple of years back where a woman in supermarket went to fetch her boyfriend because some chap had I think in her opinion "pushed in front of her" at the check out or "disrespected" her in some way, such a trivial reason no doubt. Sadly the people involved lacked the social skills or common courtesy to resolve it amicably. Unfortunately she did manage to find her boyfriend and returned a couple of minutes later to the check outs. Unfortunately some poor innocent chap who happened to be in the general area but who was not involved in the initial altercation with the woman was confronted by the deranged pyschopath boyfriend who attacked and killed him. Maybe it happened at the Sainsburys Saver Centre in Bell Green, Sydenham, South London as lots of assaults took place there as that was the demographic of the customer base. But it was horrific as this guy went totally beserk all because his thick girl friend was thick. I think the nutter was caught and given a life sentence of 4 years
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or some other ridiculously low pathetic sentence.

There are real nutters out there. You take your life in your hands if you challenge anyone when you are out on your bike. Cyclists are already very vulnerable without making your self a target. I suppose when the adrenalin is pumping it is difficult to hold back, but be careful, very careful.

I remember the case...They were both on drugs (allegedly)...nasty pieces of work and an innocent got caught up.This is one big reason why I don't trust car drivers any more either.(drugs)
 
I mean do you have a death wish,

There are many more riskier things than telling someone they shouldn't be on the phone... maybe you have a death wish because you want to cross the road? or because you live in a house with stairs rather than a bungalow?

And I would hardly say it's a "death wish"...
 
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I have no problem with telling people that they should not be driving whilst using a mobile.

IME though it usually makes no difference at all, will only lead to you maybe getting a bit of abuse before the person continues their conversation.

If every person stopped using their phone and din't use their phone ever again whilst driving then I would tell anyone and everyone who I caught.

But the sad fact is that this is simply not the case - so why bother?
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Because doing something MIGHT change something, yet doing nothing WONT change it?

Case of Pessimist vs Optimist?


I reckon 1 person won't change anything - but if people (all of use) kept on at these users it slowly makes it more socially unacceptable overtime - there was a time when it wasn't a "problem".
 

JamesAC

Senior Member
Location
London
I got whacked by a bloke who ran into my wife, twice, at a junction. I shouted "Oi!!" the first time, but when he edged forward and ran into my wife again, I walloped the bonnet of his BMW. He was a bit cross about the fist-sized dent in the body-work, and jumped out and hit he. A big mistake: my wife went berserk!

Would I do it again: yes, and yes, and yes.

Whilst ever people scuttle about minding their own business, thugs and bullies and anti-social people get away with it. If society as a whole made its feelings known, fewer scum would try it on.
 
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