Just been hit

[mr_hippo]

OP - fellow cyclists in your area offer you a vote of thanks - their ride into work was much better after you helped a driver to get rid of his anger & aggression. His workmates would also like to thank you, he was very calm all day and finally, his fasmily would like to thank you - they were able to have a peaceful evening.

 

[mr_hippo]

The learn to fight another way. We still need to send out the message that its unacceptable:

Murder, rape and pillage are also unacceptable - how do you propose tro send out that message?

 

[magnatom]

Not a reason to learn a martial art IMO.

I know Thai Boxing and Jiu Jitsu, but certainly would not go out of my way to use them, unless threatened.

Just ask Magnatom (a seasoned Judo practitioner). He has never used it in any of his videos where confrontation has arisen - well, none that he's shown us

Indeed. In fact I've been fortunate that I have never had to use it outside the dojo at all. If I had to use it, I certainly would, however, you never know who you are up against and retreat is always the best option.

I think everyone knows my opinion on this subject.

Nice to see you again Mr Hippo. Isn't it better that you avoid taking part in these threads though? I think it just serve to raise your blood pressure.....

 

[sheddy]

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If you want to use a hypothetical situation then at least try and be realistic - can't remember the last time when a driver ploughed into a bus stop killing people.
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Sentenced this week - http://www.bbc.co.uk...t-fife-11298703

 

[hackbike 666]

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Mr Sanctimonious speaks again!
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Yeah but don't knock it blud.

The world is full of shite people .I admire your stand .But not really worth it .We will never rid the roads of this type of motorist .And last weeks paper even worse types of driving .Eating with both hands reading a book .

You want to see the cars coming down Stonegate Road .Mobile after mobile it's ludicrous ,they must be soooo important .

Stay well away it could have been worse .Hope you soon recover .

+1 billion.

 

[fossyant]

TBH, if someone had landed 3-4 punches on me .... don't know how I would react...... I'd be very tempted to smack them proper, but the legal issues wouldn't be good for me - work wise it's not an issue, but I do voluntary work with kids every week............. (this I do because I enjoy it, and have seen some great outcomes - only Beaver Scouts - but the kids really get loads out of it).

Total over reaction from driver. I only 'have a go' at folk on phones that actually endanger me........ that's happened once or twice.

The OP's not wrong, but it sometimes it can wind the wrong folk up...... Op did the right thing not reacting though.... !

 

[As Easy As Riding A Bike]

http://www.dailyecho...phone_concerns/

Christ on a bike, what a litany of stupidity.

Deputy Southampton coroner Graham Denson made the comments during an inquest into a crash on the A338 at Breamore that killed a mum-of-two, Linda Williams.

He recorded a verdict of unlawful death after her partner, Michael Stewart, who was driving the Vauxhall Astra, was convicted in June for causing death by dangerous driving.

Stewart had his legs crossed to relieve back problems when he ploughed into the back of a lorry stopped behind a car turning into a lay-by.

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It emerged during the hearing the driver in front of the lorry, Jacqueline Parker, from Fordingbridge, had stopped her Landrover Freelander to pull in after her mobile phone rang.

The lorry driver driving behind, Alan Bromley, was on the phone shortly before ramming his brakes on to avoid crashing into the Freelander.

And Deborah Walker, driving behind the ill-fated Astra, was found to have sent a text shortly before the collision ahead of her, which she avoided just in time.

Ms Williams, 61, of Uphill, Weston- Super-Mare, a front seat passenger, was killed instantly.

A trial in June heard how Mr Stewart had not been able to untangle his legs in time to brake properly.

So we have a man unable to brake because his legs are crossed, smashing into the back of a lorry which had suddenly rammed its brakes on because the driver - on the phone - had failed to spot a car in front, which had stopped suddenly so its driver could answer... her phone.

And behind them, another driver on the phone, who narrowly missed the mayhem.

The conclusion is obvious - 3 points on a licence and a negligible fine is plainly not enough discouragement for this kind of behaviour. The punishment should be much more severe. It certainly shouldn't be up to members of the public to sort out this mess.

 

[iZaP]

I'm the kind of person who would hit back, but only after he has hit me first, so I could claim it was out of self-defence, would I still get in trouble?

but that guy is a w**ker.

 

[Tynan]

I'm suprised at the people saying do nothing

only the negative feedback of society makes these low level offenses unacceptable, the cops will do diddle

all that is necessary for evil to suceed and all that, amazed that cyclists don't care enough about drivers on mobiles to do anything at all

 

[fossyant]

I'm the kind of person who would hit back, but only after he has hit me first, so I could claim it was out of self-defence, would I still get in trouble?

but that guy is a w**ker.

It's tricky........... like the OP says, some not fit person lands 3-4 punches on him.....you plant one good'en on the chin - out, smacks head on floor........... hmm..... had it been a young or fit person then they'd get a good smacking....... dunno.....

Legal system is against you...the scum have nothing to lose, those that behave do have loads to lose..........

 

[As Easy As Riding A Bike]

This type of thing needs to be enforced by those that have the power to make it happen i.e the Police, DfT etc.

Agree. The problem is that the enforcement is not sufficient, and the punishment not severe enough, to act as any kind of disincentive. In combination this means that mobile phone use continues to be seen as a 'low level' offence, despite it being highly dangerous.


I'm not sure about the wisdom of members of the public confronting mobile phone users - but it certainly shouldn't be their job.

 

[fossyant]

TBH...trip them up, do some belly bounces on them, run to the car, take keys and leg it on bike, depositing keys in nearest 'black hole' or POLICE STATION (with a statement) .......... done.......... the loss of keys on a car is a BIG ISSUE...

 

[Hedge101]

I can't help feeling that if people get this overwhelming urge to play policemen then you should join the police and do it properly.

Unless something affects me personally I leave drivers and other cyclists well alone and just concentrate on what I am doing. If they want to break the law that's between them and the police.

Have you ever heard the term 'moral courage' ? We all have a part to play as we go about our daily lives. The Police can't be everywhere.

 

[Trevrev]

Have you ever heard the term 'moral courage' ? We all have a part to play as we go about our daily lives. The Police can't be everywhere.

Have you ever heard the term "Self preservation".

 

[tongskie01]

Have you ever heard the term "Self preservation".

reminding someone not to use mobile phone while driving might be self preservation as well....we cant be so sure. maybe one day you get hit by car while driver was on his phone...".the one you ignored before."......