Just been hit

[summerdays]

Isn't it a way of trying to make phone-driving as unacceptable as drink-driving, we have to show as a community that its isn't right.

 

[Trevrev]

reminding someone not to use mobile phone while driving might be self preservation as well....we cant be so sure. maybe one day you get hit by car while driver was on his phone...".the one you ignored before."......

Yeah yeah!! shoot happens!
If i confront every driver i see on the phone i'd get F**k all done.....I've got my own life to lead.
"If" i get hit by a driver using a phone i'll deal with it then.

 

[As Easy As Riding A Bike]

Isn't it a way of trying to make phone-driving as unacceptable as drink-driving

The punishments are nowhere near as stiff as for drink-driving. That's the main reason why people think it is not as bad as drink-driving. The law needs to be adjusted.


I also suspect that while challenging some people who are on their phone may be effective, in other cases people just don't care, or get seriously angry. Check out gaz's videos on youtube for evidence.

 

[tongskie01]

Yeah yeah!! shoot happens!
If i confront every driver i see on the phone i'd get F**k all done.....I've got my own life to lead.
"If" i get hit by a driver using a phone i'll deal with it then.

that if youre still alive...even worst if you become a vegetable for life.

 

[potsy]

Having just watched 'Traffic Cops' from the other night,where a guy that was already disqualified got caught driving ,was released and the next day was seen driving again by the same cop

if they aren't bothered about that then they're not going to be the slightest bit bothered by a cyclist shaking their head or telling them to put the phone down.
The mentality of some drivers is staggering,
I personally don't say anything unless it endangers me,selfish maybe but I figure it only takes one mental case and it could end very badly.

 

[Trevrev]

that if youre still alive...even worst if you become a vegetable for life.

That was a predictable come back!! How did i know that was coming!

 

[HLaB]

Having just watched 'Traffic Cops' from the other night,where a guy that was already disqualified got caught driving ,was released and the next day was seen driving again by the same cop

if they aren't bothered about that then they're not going to be the slightest bit bothered by a cyclist shaking their head or telling them to put the phone down.
The mentality of some drivers is staggering,
I personally don't say anything unless it endangers me,selfish maybe but I figure it only takes one mental case and it could end very badly.

On the subject of drink driving this nutter was on the news tonight apparently all he was concerned about was his bottle of vodka

 

[Tynan]

people think they allowed because no-one tells them otherwise, if people are frightened or unwilling to regaister disapproval that those people using phones while driving cars near bikes win

I'm not suggesting confrontation, a shake of the head is enough, if you live your life turning a blind eye to everything because you might get involved then you're letting society down and becoming one of the people you'll doubtless complain about another time

it might be you that needs someone help/involvement some time

 

[Crankarm]

Having just watched 'Traffic Cops' from the other night,where a guy that was already disqualified got caught driving ,was released and the next day was seen driving again by the same cop

if they aren't bothered about that then they're not going to be the slightest bit bothered by a cyclist shaking their head or telling them to put the phone down.
The mentality of some drivers is staggering,
I personally don't say anything unless it endangers me,selfish maybe but I figure it only takes one mental case and it could end very badly.

There was an horrific case a couple of years back where a woman in supermarket went to fetch her boyfriend because some chap had I think in her opinion "pushed in front of her" at the check out or "disrespected" her in some way, such a trivial reason no doubt. Sadly the people involved lacked the social skills or common courtesy to resolve it amicably. Unfortunately she did manage to find her boyfriend and returned a couple of minutes later to the check outs. Unfortunately some poor innocent chap who happened to be in the general area but who was not involved in the initial altercation with the woman was confronted by the deranged pyschopath boyfriend who attacked and killed him. Maybe it happened at the Sainsburys Saver Centre in Bell Green, Sydenham, South London as lots of assaults took place there as that was the demographic of the customer base. But it was horrific as this guy went totally beserk all because his thick girl friend was thick. I think the nutter was caught and given a life sentence of 4 years

or some other ridiculously low pathetic sentence.

There are real nutters out there. You take your life in your hands if you challenge anyone when you are out on your bike. Cyclists are already very vulnerable without making your self a target. I suppose when the adrenalin is pumping it is difficult to hold back, but be careful, very careful.

 

[al78]

Have you ever heard the term 'moral courage' ? We all have a part to play as we go about our daily lives. The Police can't be everywhere.

If you think it is as simple as that then I challenge you to intervene in an armed robbery in progress.

 

[al78]

I wonder if the people who advocate intervention are those who are confident, authoritive and have an imposing, even intimidating presence if required. Some people are like that, I'm sure many have met people that you take one look at and think "sheesh, I wouldn't like to get on the wrong side of him". The thing is, there are also people who are the opposite of this, the shy, nervous, self conscious people who if they try to be authoritive they just get laughed at. Whilst the former types of people can get away with confronting people with minimal fear of serious repurcussions for the latter types this is clearly not true.

The exception to this seems to be little old ladies who seem to be able to confront who they like without much fear of retaliation, as beating up old ladies is not going to gain the chavs anything in terms of "hardness points", quite the opposite in fact.

 

[Alexios]

Ladies and gentlemen,

Thank you for all your advice, well intentioned I don't doubt. Unfortunately when I was about seven someone said to me that 'for evil to truimph, all that is required is that good people do nothing'. Now I don't pretend to be good for a moment, but I know actions which have the potential to hurt people when I see them. What I didn't mention in the original post was that the incident was at about 2.30 pm, in a 20 mph limit, 40 yds from a school which was about to chuck out about 200 kids. I probably wouldn't have worried otherwise. It so happens that I don't have children myself, but when I do, I hope that someone else will discourage mobile phone use while driving next to their school. And for the individual who suggested that I should take up martial arts, I can only say that my training in Kung Fu gave me the confidence that I really wasn't in a situation where I didn't need to take any action. Suffice to say that if I hit someone four times I would be really disapointed if they could still stand, let alone stand there and answer back. As it is, I hope that the police will deal with a fairly inadequate individual.

 

[4F]

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Will the driver still use his phone? Most probably....

The driver no doubt knows it is aginst the law to use a phone and therefore does not a give a **** for anyone telling him otherwise - except the Police of course.

As mentioned before numerous times, this type of thing needs to be enforced by those that can and unless you can make a 'difference' then leave well alone.

Otherwise, what's the point??
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Agree with that

 

[Crankarm]

Ladies and gentlemen,

Thank you for all your advice, well intentioned I don't doubt. Unfortunately when I was about seven someone said to me that 'for evil to truimph, all that is required is that good people do nothing'. Now I don't pretend to be good for a moment, but I know actions which have the potential to hurt people when I see them. What I didn't mention in the original post was that the incident was at about 2.30 pm, in a 20 mph limit, 40 yds from a school which was about to chuck out about 200 kids. I probably wouldn't have worried otherwise. It so happens that I don't have children myself, but when I do, I hope that someone else will discourage mobile phone use while driving next to their school. And for the individual who suggested that I should take up martial arts, I can only say that my training in Kung Fu gave me the confidence that I really wasn't in a situation where I didn't need to take any action. Suffice to say that if I hit someone four times I would be really disapointed if they could still stand, let alone stand there and answer back. As it is, I hope that the police will deal with a fairly inadequate individual.

Ehh?????

Sorry, but if you were any good at Kung Fu or any other martial art you would have either hit back with the speed of a rapier thus ending the impending attack or alternatively anticipated what he was about to do and passively restrained the idiot without any harm to you. I don't buy your account that he was a rather an unfit chap and you were happy to let him hit you ........... Basically he caught you by surprise as you didn't read how the situation was escalating and then he over powered you in striking you several times. You seem remarkably chipper given that you have been assaulted. Anyway tomorrow you might feel a little different once any bruising starts to show and soreness developes. Did he cause you to bleed? Did any paramedics attend to you? How's your bike? If you were going by a school at kicking out time there must be lots of witnesses?

So the police are investigating the assault on you and his use of his mobile phone whilst driving?

 

[marzjennings]

Ehh?????

Sorry, but if you were any good at Kung Fu or any other martial art you would have either hit back with the speed of a rapier thus ending the impending attack or alternatively anticipated what he was about to do and passively restrained the idiot without any harm to you. I don't buy your account that he was a rather an unfit chap and you were happy to let him hit you ........... Basically he caught you by surprise as you didn't read how the situation was escalating and then he over powered you in striking you several times. You seem remarkably chipper given that you have been assaulted. Anyway tomorrow you might feel a little different once any bruising starts to show and soreness developes. Did he cause you to bleed? Did any paramedics attend to you? How's your bike? If you were going by a school at kicking out time there must be lots of witnesses?

So the police are investigating the assault on you and his use of his mobile phone whilst driving?

It happens, if you know how to fight you can spot someone who doesn't have a clue.

I remember calling out a teen who was smacking another teen about in Bournemouth about 10 years ago. I yelled something like,'OI, cool it down' and he promptly walked over to me and started smacking me in the face and gut. It was like being slapped by wet lettuce. I was 31 and he must of been about 17-18 and I had at least 60lbs on him. What was I supposed to do, if I had hit him I'd have broken his nose. So I just started to laugh, right in his face. Made him mad, but when everyone else (my mates and some folks on the street) started to laugh too he just called me an old self-gratification artist and strutted off. Maybe I could restrained him and called the police, but he was just some drunk teenager. Probably some jumped up first line manger in bank by now.