Just seen a Range Rover Evoque

[fossyant]

Aren't Freelanders notorious for breaking down all the time. I'd heard this before a lad at work bought one which soon broke down and was too expensive to repair.

Mk1's all died as most were powered by Rover engines - the petrol K series were a nightmare if you didn't look after it. Shame as the K series was a cracker - well I had one (only a Rover metro GTa) but px'ed the car way before it could die.

 

[Chrisz]

PS diesel emissions are really crap for cyclists - "particulates"............. I'll just add that to the fire....... you diesel driving cyclists..tut...tut.......

PS where is the 4.0 super charged petrol - I'll have that (if I had the cash).

Had the 4.2 s/c Jag - fun but the bills were a little high Settled on a 3L petrol S-Type - still a bit slow and sedate after my "tuned" Supra

 

[david1701]

Mk1's all died as most were powered by Rover engines - the petrol K series were a nightmare if you didn't look after it. Shame as the K series was a cracker - well I had one (only a Rover metro GTa) but px'ed the car way before it could die.

we did 3 head gaskets before giving it back

 

[Chrisz]

The later models run a BMW engine - no HG issues!

 

[Globalti]

This is a proper Land Rover in its natural environment:

The technology is 1950s, it is still assembled by hand using a big mallet and a crowbar, it does 26 mpg, costs almost nothing to insure and is noisy, uncomfortable, leaks water, drips oil and smells. However because it is effectively a fast tractor it is unbeatable for towing and with a wheel at each corner, no body overhang, high ground clearance and long suspension travel with soft springs as well as tall narrow tyres and high ground pressure it can go almost anywhere with ease in skilled hands.

This is a modern monocoque, computerised SUV that happens to have the Land Rover brand name glued on its bonnet:

It is driven by cocks and ladies who lunch, to project the image that they live up a long lane deep in the country. However, strangely during December's snow here in the Ribble Valley no Range Rovers made it to school on the very snowy days, which is odd because I always though people bought them so they could get around in the snow. Mrs Gti and Gti junior somehow did make it to school in their tiny Citroen C1 with its narrow tyres and front wheel drive on all the days school was closed. They performed handbrake turns in the school car park to amuse the few other kids who turned up.

 

[Clandy]

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Opinions, yes, prejudice and bigotry, no!<br />

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It is my opinion that 4x4s, SUVs, and their 2wd variants have no place in the urban environment. Most are bought purely as status symbols or to pander to inferiority complexes.

As for greenlaners they are a destructive, polluting nuisance that should be banned. Hikers and ramblers hate them, cyclists hate them, and most rural residents hate them.

 

[Stephenite]

Agree with you Globalti. But i dont think we should use the term 'cock' because it upsets certain people, and can lead to an escalation in name-calling.

Here is a pic of the inside an off-road vehicle (looking out, the tools are in the back).

There was an amusing episode the other week where I saw a huge 4x4 Lexus struggling on a shallow, but icy incline and i, in my 2wd 1993 VW Golf just sailed past

 

[Norm]

As for greenlaners they are a destructive, polluting nuisance that should be banned. Hikers and ramblers hate them, cyclists hate them, and most rural residents hate them.

The problm with this argument is that hikers, ramblers, trail riders, horse riders and many green-laners hate cyclists riding off road, are we to be banned too?

Many car drivers hate cyclists on the road, does that allow a further banning?

If minority interests are banned on the basis that many people don't like them, cycling would be a very early victim along with just about every other sport (damned squash players in their white plimsolls, they are a bunch of arrogant sods) and hobby (can you believe we allow people to stand around in anoraks at the end of station platforms? Train spotters should all be banned).

Banning stuff because we don't like it at the very least attempts creates a society in which no-one deviates from the norm. At it's worst, it is a very short-term recipe for anarchy.

However, I have no idea what relevance green-laning has to a thread about the RR Evoque, as it would stumble at the first sign of mud.

 

[Clandy]

<br />The problm with this argument is that hikers, ramblers, trail riders, horse riders and many green-laners hate cyclists riding off road, are we to be banned too?<br />
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Many car drivers hate cyclists on the road, does that allow a further banning?<br />
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If minority interests are banned on the basis that many people don't like them, cycling would be a very early victim along with just about every other sport (damned squash players in their white plimsolls, they are a bunch of arrogant sods) and hobby (can you believe we allow people to stand around in anoraks at the end of station platforms? Train spotters should all be banned).<br />
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Banning stuff because we don't like it at the very least attempts creates a society in which no-one deviates from the norm. At it's worst, it is a very short-term recipe for anarchy.<br />
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However, I have no idea what relevance green-laning has to a thread about the RR Evoque, as it would stumble at the first sign of mud. <img src='http://www.cyclechat.net/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /><br />

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Are cyclists tearing up the lanes with two tons of Chelsea tractor, fully loaded with families of baseball cap wearing salad dodgers, belching pollution and diesel particulates as they do it?
I don't say ban Greenlaning because I don't like it, I say ban it because it is unnecessarily damaging to the environment and destroys green lanes leaving them almost impassable for walkers, ramblers, and cyclists.

If people truly want to enjoy the countryside then do it on foot, or horseback, or by bicycle.

 

[dellzeqq]

to go back to the beginning. Take it from a professional aesthete. It's ugly. Sort of gasworks gothic meets WW2 German army staff car. Wesley Snipes probably has two of 'em.

 

[Stephenite]

to go back to the beginning. Take it from a professional aesthete. It's ugly. Sort of gasworks gothic meets WW2 German army staff car. Wesley Snipes probably has two of 'em.

Waiting for him for when he gets out of jail. But there'll be new thick and ugly-looking rides waiting in five years time i fear.

 

[snailracer]

Opinions, yes, prejudice and bigotry, no!

In a free society, prejudice and bigotry, YES !

It is up to those who would listen to decide, for themselves, what is valid opinion, and what is not.

 

[Aperitif]

to go back to the beginning. Take it from a professional aesthete. It's ugly. Sort of gasworks gothic meets WW2 German army staff car. Wesley Snipes probably has two of 'em.

Quoting from the Indie:

Geneva Motor Show 2011: Range Rover Evoque takes top design prize
Relaxnews


Wednesday, 2 March 2011

The Range Rover Evoque has been named best production vehicle in the 2010 Car Design of the Year Awards. The Evoque, Range Rover's smallest ever vehicle, was picked as the best-designed vehicle of last year by Car Design News in a ceremony at the Geneva Motor Show March 1.

It beat competition from the Alfa Romeo Giulietta and the Audi A7 which were also in the running for the prestigious annual award, judged by a panel of automotive designers and leading industry figures.

It is the first major international award for the Evoque which was launched at last October's Paris Motor Show to considerable acclaim, going on to win several smaller prizes from regional magazines in the Czech Republic, Portugal and the UK.

Car Design News editor Eric Gallina said that "the Evoque represents the best translation from concept car to production vehicle we have seen in recent times."

 

[Piemaster]

That thing beat an Alfa? Surely not. Though Alfa apparently have an SUV thing of their own on the way, which just seems wrong to me. Not Does look imo better than the evoque though, not as though thats a difficult thing to do

 

[subaqua]

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Are cyclists tearing up the lanes with two tons of Chelsea tractor, fully loaded with families of baseball cap wearing salad dodgers, belching pollution and diesel particulates as they do it?
I don't say ban Greenlaning because I don't like it, I say ban it because it is unnecessarily damaging to the environment and destroys green lanes leaving them almost impassable for walkers, ramblers, and cyclists.

If people truly want to enjoy the countryside then do it on foot, or horseback, or by bicycle.

so the 8 hours i spent a few weeks ago cutting back vegetation that had blocked a green lane ( actually a BOAT - thats Byway open to ALL traffic) that the local authority wouldn't clear as they haven't got the resources , funding or time, means as a 4x4 owner I am destroying things. every weekend there will be hundreds of others doing the same.

if keeping access open for other users is a bad thing then i shall stop immediately.

I love it when i hear of 3ft deep ruts in green lanes caused by4x4s , the ground clearance is generally about 300-400mm at most even on a lifted vehicle. the ruts are generally caused by somewhat more agricultural vehicles with slightly more aggressive tyres.

I don't need to justify my ownership of a 4x4. it sits outside the house 90% of the time as i use my bike or for tootling about town on larger distances with the family i use her little town car.