Keeping safe and being seen on the road

[Sharky]

Absolutely! I invested in the latest Giro helmet – one used by the pros, so it must be safe – without delay. I must say, I already feel safer. Guys no longer overtake me as they stare (in what can only be jealousy) at my new lid. And women drivers look at my alluring headgear – it can only be the look of love at first sight – rather than making a dépassement dangereux. Frankly, this newfangled helmet has been a marvellous improvement in style and safety.


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I wonder what Vic Gibbons would have made of this? He won the BBAR, Wearing a "HAIRNET" for aero advantage!

 

[Sharky]

I wonder what Vic Gibbons would have made of this? He won the BBAR, Wearing a "HAIRNET" for aero advantage!

Just to add, Vic Gibbons won the Hainault RC hilly 40 in 1970. I rode the event as well, but took me almost 30 minutes longer.

And the other coincidence, he died on my birthday, 9th February only three years ago, age 90.

 

[Alex321]

It's a page that demands you do some work for Google before seeing another page, usually some image recognition to train their "AI" or similar. I'm asking it in response to that because that's what the link shows. Maybe if the poster had described what they thought they were linking & why it matters, we'd know which page they meant to link.

Interesting. I never saw any captcha/recaptcha. That is why I was confused (plus the fact I didn't understand what you meant by "workwall"). I got straight in to the one shown by Classic33.

Just clicked it again, and again got straight in.

 

[mjr]

Interesting. I never saw any captcha/recaptcha. That is why I was confused (plus the fact I didn't understand what you meant by "workwall"). I got straight in to the one shown by Classic33.

Just clicked it again, and again got straight in.

Well, great for you. Maybe you're using Chrome so already working for Google for free? Or maybe it's because I'm foolish enough to be using a VPN while touring, which seems to be frowned upon by some in this subforum.

 

[icowden]

Well, great for you. Maybe you're using Chrome so already working for Google for free? Or maybe it's because I'm foolish enough to be using a VPN while touring, which seems to be frowned upon by some in this subforum.

Yes, it's because you are using a VPN and the system therefore suspects you might be a bot.
Have you ever considered just responding with a "Yes - my bad, I'm using a VPN so it might just be that" rather than assuming that someone has posted a link to digitally affront you?

Where safety is concerned, I feel I can quite safely ignore any "meta-analysis" which gives any credence whatsoever to Thompson, Rivara and Thompson.

It makes one mention of this study which is to say that it exists. The point of the meta analysis is to expand on the work of Olivier and Creighton (2016)

The meta-analysis by Olivier and Creighton (2016) is the most comprehensive one. It is based on 40 studies from 1989 to 2016 and concludes that bicycle helmets reduce head injury by 51%, serious head injury by 69% and fatal head injury by 65%. With the help of meta-regression analysis, Olivier and Creighton (2016) show that the effects of bicycle helmets differ by type of injury, but that none of the following factors are likely to have affected the results: Setting for data collection, pro- vs. retrospective data collection, mandatory helmet legislation (yes vs. no), age category (adults vs. children), proportion of males, proportion of bicycle-motor vehicle collisions, time trend bias (publication year), and publication bias either.
The aim of the present study is to replicate the results from Olivier and Creighton (2016), based on a larger number of studies, and to investigate the effects of some additional potential confounding variables. The present meta-analysis includes 15 studies in addition to the 40 studies included in the meta-analysis by Olivier and Creighton (2016). In addition to most of the potential confounding variables investigated by Olivier and Creighton (2016), it investigates the effects of controlling for potential confounding variables in the individual studies, differences between hospital vs. emergency department (ED) or police reported data, and effects of the choice of comparison group on the estimated effects of bicycle helmets on cervical spine injuries. Publication bias has been tested by inspecting funnel plot diagrams for each type of injury, and by using the trim-and-fill (T&F) method developed by Duval and Tweedie (2000).

 

[Gillstay]

I always think there is one problem with this discussion. The people who have not been injured are still here cycling and the ones who have been injured are no longer on cycle sites discussing what happened to their heads. A visit to a Headway charity would probably give us a very different insight.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

I was reminded of this thread an hour or so ago

I was coming back from Tesco and turned left onto the road
just got going and I noticed a bike in front of me just dodging onto the pavement
he was probably 40-50 yards away but I had not seen him because
a) he was on the WRONG side of the road
b) he was wearing dark clothes head to foot
c) he had no lights on his bike
d) his bike was totally dark colours with no bright colours at all
e) the background he was in front of was dark and mixed up
f) he was NOT going slow!!

I am sure I would have seen him before I got up to speed
but Yeah Gods he was risking it

 

[Webbo2]

I always think there is one problem with this discussion. The people who have not been injured are still here cycling and the ones who have been injured are no longer on cycle sites discussing what happened to their heads. A visit to a Headway charity would probably give us a very different insight.

Not necessarily some of us have been injured broken ribs collar bones but no head injuries however a smashed helmet.
Make of that what you wish.