La Vuelta 2025 ***SPOILERS***

[Pross]

That’s my point. The first half is nothing special and the second half is reasonably short but very punchy. It suits someone who likes short and punchy over someone who prefers a long grind.

It’s 6km at about 8% average, a 1km flatter then 6.5km in double digits other than the final 500m. It’s a pretty long climb by any standards and the ‘easy’ lower section is a gradient similar to most of the big climbs at the Tour. Compared to the climbs that Pidcock has been successful on (at Amstel etc.) it’s long and far more in the territory that Jonas excels in than today’s final climb was.

 

[mididoctors]

This ipt thing ain't going away

 

[mididoctors]

Stage 12

 

[No Ta Doctor]

I think the Russia ruling was a ioc thing ?

Not quite. The IOC "recommended" the action, but it was within the UCI's remit to follow the recommendation.

"the UCI welcomes the strong decisions taken by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) on 28 February and has decided to apply them to cycling"


This bit is particularly interesting:

"As part of its decisions, the UCI Management Committee has also taken stance on sponsoring by Russian or Belarusian brands and companies. As it considers that this would damage the image of the UCI and cycling in general, such sponsoring will not be authorised. Teams and event organisers have therefore been requested not to grant any visibility to Russian or Belarusian sponsors at events on the UCI International Calendar."

https://www.uci.org/pressrelease/th...e-situation-in-ukraine/6V8FrkqsPbhbeMIc8rgb3t

 

[mididoctors]

Not quite. The IOC "recommended" the action, but it was within the UCI's remit to follow the recommendation.

"the UCI welcomes the strong decisions taken by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) on 28 February and has decided to apply them to cycling"


This bit is particularly interesting:

"As part of its decisions, the UCI Management Committee has also taken stance on sponsoring by Russian or Belarusian brands and companies. As it considers that this would damage the image of the UCI and cycling in general, such sponsoring will not be authorised. Teams and event organisers have therefore been requested not to grant any visibility to Russian or Belarusian sponsors at events on the UCI International Calendar."

https://www.uci.org/pressrelease/th...e-situation-in-ukraine/6V8FrkqsPbhbeMIc8rgb3t

The problem then is the ioc hasn't made similar ruling on Israel because etc ...... Zo nothing to follow for the UCI ...they would have to go.it alone .

 

[mididoctors]

What about aso ?

 

[Pblakeney]

It’s 6km at about 8% average, a 1km flatter then 6.5km in double digits other than the final 500m. It’s a pretty long climb by any standards and the ‘easy’ lower section is a gradient similar to most of the big climbs at the Tour. Compared to the climbs that Pidcock has been successful on (at Amstel etc.) it’s long and far more in the territory that Jonas excels in than today’s final climb was.

I guess that we simply disagree on what constitutes as long. At home 6.5kms is a long climb, in GT terms it is short. In my opinion.