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phreak

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Being the devil’s advocate, the Angliru is a short steep climb. About as extreme an example as you can get, but it is not long.
It's 13km long. No different to d'Huez or the Mortirolo. It does feel a different sport from when it was first climbed and riders actually struggled on it though. Now riders are doing 1700 VAM or so up it. I doubt they're even anywhere near the granny ring.
 
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Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
So the times were taken at 3k right? Was there actually any change in GC? Neither PCS nor lavuelta.es is showing a GC post stage 11.
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
It's 13km long. No different to d'Huez or the Mortirolo. It does feel a different sport from when it was first climbed and riders actually struggled on it though. Now riders are doing 1700 VAM or so up it. I doubt they're even anywhere near the granny ring.

Didn't David Millar throw an enormous hissy fit the first time he had to go up it, and abandoned at the top? I don't think that was the first time it was used though.
 

No Ta Doctor

Über Member
Being the devil’s advocate, the Angliru is a short steep climb. About as extreme an example as you can get, but it is not long.

It's the Spanish Mill Hill

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mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Didn't David Millar throw an enormous hissy fit the first time he had to go up it, and abandoned at the top? I don't think that was the first time it was used though.
If I recall correctly, some reports say Millar abandoned in protest at the police throwing errant fans down the hillside, but team PR didn't pass that on for some reason.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
It feels that, given the organisers were expecting the protests and actually seemed to have contingencies in place, they could have maybe had a back up finish line that the teams were aware of but not published it in advance.
Not just could, but should. If they're going to allow IPT to sportswash its owner's homeland, they're going to be at risk of things like this, and attempting to get us to bash the host country's public opinion by declaring no winner is stupid and a disservice to fans everywhere. What are they thinking? Are they too out-of-touch to realise IPT is contraversial, or too inept to have a better fallback plan?
 

Pross

Veteran
So the times were taken at 3k right? Was there actually any change in GC? Neither PCS nor lavuelta.es is showing a GC post stage 11.

Pidcock and Almeida moved up a place at the expense of Traeen and Almeida lost 12” to Jonas, 14” to Pidcock so 8” or 10” on the line (I can’t remember if he picked up the 2 bonus seconds).
 

misforturob

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Not just could, but should. If they're going to allow IPT to sportswash its owner's homeland, they're going to be at risk of things like this, and attempting to get us to bash the host country's public opinion by declaring no winner is stupid and a disservice to fans everywhere. What are they thinking? Are they too out-of-touch to realise IPT is contraversial, or too inept to have a better fallback plan?

Who is "they" here? Vuelta organisation or UCI?Under what rule or regulation could the Vuelta organisation remove IPT from the race?
 
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