Alex321
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Well he claims I have an "inability to understand simple concepts " (and says he has put me on ignore) for saying the same thing, so I doubt he will
Leaking tubeless system - should the bike shop fix it?
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Ming the Merciless
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Well he claims I have an "inability to understand simple concepts " (and says he has put me on ignore) for saying the same thing, so I doubt he will
Yeah for someone who has to ask simple questions about brake cable tension, it does seem weird that they think they have the authoritive answers on tubeless terms.
Profpointy
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Well he claims I have an "inability to understand simple concepts " (and says he has put me on ignore) for saying the same thing, so I doubt he will
He's chairman of the official proper English committee don't you know, so like Humpty Dumpty words mean what he decides they should mean. We'll be arguing what "all wheel drive" means next
T4tomo
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definitely a unicycle, maybe
Profpointy
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definitely a unicycle, maybe
Apparently not, as awd means electickery magickness (for some people anyway)
Ming the Merciless
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Perhaps an eunicycle
Dogtrousers
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Here's what I think happened. It's just a guess ...
Mavic have UST rims that are really tubeless. They call them, justifiably, tubeless. Cos they don't use tubes.
Other people are selling rims that will take tubeless tyres but need first to be bodged with rim tape. They'd love to call them tubeless but they really aren't, so they coin the term tubeless compatible. Which makes sense.
Other people are offering to do the bodging for you by pre-taping the rims. They want to differentiate themselves from bare rims that need bodging, so they coin the term tubeless ready. Sounds much cooler. And makes sense.
Now the people selling bare rims are casting around for a cooler term. They hear tubeless ready being used and think, hey, that's cool. I'll use that. And in the absence of an ISO definition, or anything like that, there's nothing to stop them, and the water becomes muddied.
And now we are where we are.
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fair weather cyclist
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and another one on the list. One by one I'll make this forum worth reading (for me)
Ajax Bay
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A modern(ish) take on 'a little list' (3 minutes):
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWo_3CIcTBQ
To muddy the waters, I would say that a 'tubeless ready wheel' would be one that has a profile that can accept tubeless tyres and has tubeless rim tape applied whereas a 'tubeless ready rim' needs merely to have a profile that can accept tubeless tyres.
However, given the industry's apparent inability to use terminology in either a consistent, or correct manner, I wouldn't buy anything tubeless without first very carefully determining exactly what the words they use mean for any particular product.
(And this is entirely moot for me as I have no current desire to go tubeless.)
However, given the industry's apparent inability to use terminology in either a consistent, or correct manner, I wouldn't buy anything tubeless without first very carefully determining exactly what the words they use mean for any particular product.
(And this is entirely moot for me as I have no current desire to go tubeless.)
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The Yellow tape in your first photograph looks like the Stan's tubeless tape I have fitted to my tubeless rims!
Profpointy
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To be fair I'd be inclined to agree, albeit the pedantic might expect a valve to be fitted already. I was challenging the earlier poster's pomposity rather than what he was saying which I would tend to agree with.
Ming the Merciless
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Maybe he inflates his tubeless ready tyres with pomposity
