Legalised Parking on the pavement

[snorri]

and the owners live here because it is the centre of their community, place of prayer is on the doorsetp, as is the location of the specialist food marts, schooling to cater specifically for religious teaching etc etc.

Are you proposing to have variations in traffic law throughout the land dependent on the ethnicity and religious persuasions of the inhabitants of individual streets?

 

[al78]

Which is the point exactly..... you don't buy a sofa then make demands that you have to be provided with somewhere to put it!

A sofa isn't a car. Just because rules/guidelines apply to one object does not mean that the same rules/guidelines must apply to a completely different object with completely different properties.

There are better ways of getting the point across without resorting to flawed analogies.

I do thing you would find in a straw poll in that road that the residents would view removal of parking rights to be an infringement on their liberty. Cars are seen as status symbols at the end of the day, and right of ownership should not be limited to the better off because they can afford to live in houses with drives....

 

[gambatte]

A sofa isn't a car. Just because rules/guidelines apply to one object does not mean that the same rules/guidelines must apply to a completely different object with completely different properties.

There are better ways of getting the point across without resorting to flawed analogies.

only a car is a car... so we can't refer to anything else? Problem is they keep changing the rule/guidelines to advantage the car driver and in the process disadvantage others.
Hows about this analogy, people are aspirational about holidays. A car can park on there, with a caravan behind, unhitch and you're in trouble.
How much clearer would the roads be if they weren't car parks?

 

[gambatte]

A sofa isn't a car. Just because rules/guidelines apply to one object does not mean that the same rules/guidelines must apply to a completely different object with completely different properties.

There are better ways of getting the point across without resorting to flawed analogies.

only a car is a car... so we can't refer to anything else? Problem is they keep changing the rule/guidelines to advantage the car driver and in the process disadvantage others.
Hows about this analogy, people are aspirational about holidays. A car can park on there, with a caravan behind, unhitch and you're in trouble.
How much clearer would the roads be if they weren't car parks?

 

[Andy_R]

A sofa isn't a car. Just because rules/guidelines apply to one object does not mean that the same rules/guidelines must apply to a completely different object with completely different properties.

There are better ways of getting the point across without resorting to flawed analogies.

Actually, the analogy is rather good. We all aspire to have things, that's just human nature. Sometimes the things we want just won't fit in where we live. So we can't have them or others have to suffer because of our aspirations." If my family want to have four cars, but live in a house with space outside for 1 car, should I deny other people 3 spaces for my families' cars. Of course I should, because I'm greedy, feck you, my needs wishes are more important than your needs."

How does that sound?

I wouldn't want to live near someone like that. Unfortunately, I do though.

 

[Nigel-YZ1]

Actually, the analogy is rather good. We all aspire to have things, that's just human nature. Sometimes the things we want just won't fit in where we live. So we can't have them or others have to suffer because of our aspirations." If my family want to have four cars, but live in a house with space outside for 1 car, should I deny other people 3 spaces for my families' cars. Of course I should, because I'm greedy, feck you, my needs wishes are more important than your needs."

How does that sound?

I wouldn't want to live near someone like that. Unfortunately, I do though.

Same here. There's a few of them.

 

[Linford]

Linf, Linf, Linf..... please tell me you are not some of ironic racist twonk, cos if you, are Im going to have to "de-friend" you know

Absolutely not. I think people should attempt to respect the choices others make for whatever reason they do. The argument put across here is there is no justification for having a couple of cars whilst living in a terrace house, and I say different and presented a perfectly plausible argument which many households will face down there. - some middle class cyclist spouts about the kids living there not being able to own a car which they buy and pay all the bills on because they sometimes have to park outside a neighbours house because dad drives for a living and also keeps his car in the street. If I were them I'd say go spin on it.....about 45rpm

 

[Linford]

Actually, the analogy is rather good. We all aspire to have things, that's just human nature. Sometimes the things we want just won't fit in where we live. So we can't have them or others have to suffer because of our aspirations." If my family want to have four cars, but live in a house with space outside for 1 car, should I deny other people 3 spaces for my families' cars. Of course I should, because I'm greedy, feck you, my needs wishes are more important than your needs."

How does that sound?

I wouldn't want to live near someone like that. Unfortunately, I do though.

That is life though. I sacrificed my front garden to park my cars there - just like many of my neighbours also. Not everyone is fortunate as we are though, and so they and their neighbours have to scrap it out like I did when I lived in my old terraced house. I'd rather have to scrap for car parking spaces than have to put up with an inconsiderate one pumping music out of open windows or a back garden based PA system at 1am.

If you live in a terraced street and own a car, don't moan about parking it there - simples

 

[Linford]

Come on Linford, make your mind up.....forced to live there or choose to live there.....

Both

 

[400bhp]

Well it is hard to argue against cycling on the pavement when you go down this road in Gloucester

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=blenheim road gloucester&hl=en&ll=51.858716,-2.236168&spn=0.000013,0.006856&hnear=Blenheim Rd, Gloucester, United Kingdom&gl=uk&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=51.858487,-2.236364&panoid=fGqsXtDs6NRIYe46WRhjlQ&cbp=12,207.42,,0,19.18

Question:

What happens if someone parks in front of a doorway on that street which (from the picture) appears to prevent full access to the front door?

(full access being able to, say, wheel a wheelchair in through the door, or carry a large boxed item).

I can see some argy bargy down that street-shame no-one has installed a cctv down there.

 

[Linford]

Question:

What happens if someone parks in front of a doorway on that street which (from the picture) appears to prevent full access to the front door?

(full access being able to, say, wheel a wheelchair in through the door, or carry a large boxed item).

I can see some argy bargy down that street-shame no-one has installed a cctv down there.

From what I saw, they don't actually do that. The cars still need space front and back to get in and out of the spaces - like any other parking spot. These seemed to match up well with the spacing of the houses. If they do obstruct, I would expect they get told to shift it. Nobody would park down there unless they were visiting someone TBH.

 

[400bhp]

From what I saw, they don't actually do that. The cars still need space front and back to get in and out of the spaces - like any other parking spot. These seemed to match up well with the spacing of the houses.

Eh?

Look at the pic on google-the only car in clear view is blocking a front door.

 

[Linford]

Eh?

Look at the pic on google-the only car in clear view is blocking a front door.

could be their own house

 

[400bhp]

So, everyone has just one car then?

Don't be silly.

 

[Linford]

Still begs the question that the council must have done this to satisfy the residents living there as it isn't strangers dumping their cars on the pavement is it.