Lights: Seeing on unlit roads

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BrynCP

Über Member
Location
Hull
Last winter, as I was just beginning, I only rode on lit roads on an evening. However, this just won't do this winter as I now ride much further! I also ride faster, so even on lit roads I need a better view of the road ahead. This may seem a premature question but actually it's starting to get dark as soon as 2030 now.

I am looking for a set of decent lights: a front one to help me see on totally unlit roads, so it needs to be bright and suitable for the road (not dazzling oncoming road users, esp as roads are often single track), and a decent rear light so as to be seen on the same roads.

My daily routes are currently up to about 90 minutes, of which about half is on lit roads, so battery life must be at least an hour on the higher beams.

Budget wise, whatever is best value I guess, up to about £80 for the set. I do already have a cree t6 I bought last winter but never used, my understanding however is that these can be very dazzling to oncoming users.
 

cyberknight

As long as I breathe, I attack.
Last winter, as I was just beginning, I only rode on lit roads on an evening. However, this just won't do this winter as I now ride much further! I also ride faster, so even on lit roads I need a better view of the road ahead. This may seem a premature question but actually it's starting to get dark as soon as 2030 now.

I am looking for a set of decent lights: a front one to help me see on totally unlit roads, so it needs to be bright and suitable for the road (not dazzling oncoming road users, esp as roads are often single track), and a decent rear light so as to be seen on the same roads.

My daily routes are currently up to about 90 minutes, of which about half is on lit roads, so battery life must be at least an hour on the higher beams.

Budget wise, whatever is best value I guess, up to about £80 for the set. I do already have a cree t6 I bought last winter but never used, my understanding however is that these can be very dazzling to oncoming users.
I cant say i have had a problem dazzling other road users with my t6 , if its an issue you can just get a lens to shape the beam .
On the back i use a smart r2 which is probably enough but i also have a smart r1 on each pannier bag as well
 

The Rover

Guru
Location
Blackburn
My future commute sounds similar as well as the budget.
Can I be cheeky and ask another part to this to avoid starting another thread.

I'd like to hear recommendations of lights that are easily transferable between bikes.

Cheers Stuart
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Search for the T6 light thread on here.

Please be aware , don't use these on full on the road. It will vaporise Mr Range Rover into oblivion.
 
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BrynCP

Über Member
Location
Hull
Sounds like I should give the T6 a go. My only other concern were the reports of exploding battery packs!

Would the Smart R2 go through the loop on a Topeak saddle bag do you know at all? Last year I didn't bother with the saddle bag as a weekday ride was never more than a few miles from home, but now I'll need all my stuff. Problem is with the bag mounted, and the rear reflector, it leaves no space for a light.
 

Custom24

Über Member
Location
Oxfordshire
Search for the T6 light thread on here.

Please be aware , don't use these on full on the road. It will vaporise Mr Range Rover into oblivion.
Ok on full as long as beam is directed down and/or a beam shaper lens is used.

Edit - I mean even with beam shaper lens, beam should still be directed downwards.
 

uclown2002

Guru
Location
Harrogate
I've had 3 x smart R2 suffer with water ingress so I'd not go there.

Alternatively Blackburn Mars seem more resilient.
 

cyberknight

As long as I breathe, I attack.
I've had 3 x smart R2 suffer with water ingress so I'd not go there.

Alternatively Blackburn Mars seem more resilient.

I cant say i have ever had a problem with them mounted on the seat post with proper gaurds which really are a must for all year round commuting unless your into the muddy streak soggy botty look.
 

andrew_s

Legendary Member
Location
Gloucester
The Philips 80 is the best non-dazzling bike light. It's got a car dipped headlight style cut-off, and puts just as much light on the road in front of you as a T6 (but less in the trees and verges). Because of the cut off beam, you can aim it further ahead than a T6, and hence go faster.

I cant say i have had a problem dazzling other road users with my t6
How do you know? You are the wrong side of the light to be able to tell.
Is it that they don't retaliate by putting their headlights on main beam (motons), or swear at you (cyclists)? There are other reasons for doing that other than not being dazzled.

On the non-dazzling front, the clip on lenses that you can get for T6s etc are better than nothing, but that's about all you can say about them.
 

cyberknight

As long as I breathe, I attack.
The Philips 80 is the best non-dazzling bike light. It's got a car dipped headlight style cut-off, and puts just as much light on the road in front of you as a T6 (but less in the trees and verges). Because of the cut off beam, you can aim it further ahead than a T6, and hence go faster.


How do you know? You are the wrong side of the light to be able to tell.
Is it that they don't retaliate by putting their headlights on main beam (motons), or swear at you (cyclists)? There are other reasons for doing that other than not being dazzled.

On the non-dazzling front, the clip on lenses that you can get for T6s etc are better than nothing, but that's about all you can say about them.

I had it dipped down so the main circle was maybe 5 foot in front of the wheel and car would dip their lights and not flash like they do when they see another vehicle that has not dipped and is dazzling .
 
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