Litter in Countryside. Why?
- Thread starter Brandane
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Tail End Charlie
Well, write it down boy ......
- Location
- In green and pleasant hills.
I regularly litter pick round a local lake. People come up to me and say "can you take this" and when I tell them to take it home look at me as if I've two heads. I don't get paid for this you know (well the ice cream man offers a free ice cream). Many many people just expect others to deal with their crap.
Kingfisher101
Über Member
With large items its the cost of getting rid of them. If you don't drive its £30.00 for one large item to be taken by the council and its a bit less from a man in a van. People don't want to pay anything, so just dump it at night.
With general littering its laziness, and sticking two fingers up, general couldn't care less attitude etc. The councils also need more bins outside and to empty household bins more as well. Lack of emptying causes littering as well as rats etc.The councils are partly to blame for increased fly tipping.
With general littering its laziness, and sticking two fingers up, general couldn't care less attitude etc. The councils also need more bins outside and to empty household bins more as well. Lack of emptying causes littering as well as rats etc.The councils are partly to blame for increased fly tipping.
HMS_Dave
Grand Old Lady
Couldn't disagree more....
It's always cost to get rid of large items, unless you own a large vehicle.
Pay up scumbags or drive to the local tip. There is no excuse for dumping anything in the countryside. Not least your McDonald's McShite burger packaging....
Kingfisher101
Über Member
The cost has never been as much as it is now and people who cant afford it will not pay full stop.
I've never dumped anything I will add, I pay or recycle it.
slowmotion
Quite dreadful
- Location
- lost somewhere
People in Vancouver are renowned for their politeness and civility.
HMS_Dave
Grand Old Lady
If they can dump their items out in the countryside, why can't they dump it at a tip? My local tip it costs nothing for most things. Other charges are £4 a car tyre. They don't charge for fridges, freezers, cookers, mattresses etc. Also, my local council charge £15.75 to collect anything that can be lifted by two people and £6.50 for subsequent items. You pay more when you buy a new fridge, freezer, cooker from a retailer for them to take it away when they deliver the new one!
Kingfisher101
Über Member
Ask them?
ebikeerwidnes
Guru
- Location
- Z’ha’dum
I worked in a school for many years and saw this attitude as it formed
Basically it is "why should I" - i.e I will just do what I want and I don't care what anyone else thinks - a lot actually thought this was a good character point
There is also the "what you gonna do about it?" concept
and the "they can;t do anything about it" and the "the can't prove it" version
Generally the idea of having any responsibility to go along with their precious "rights" is not acceptable to a lot of people - they only take the bits of modern society that they want - and ignore the rest
SO they don;t want old rubbish McBurgers in their car as it makes it smelly and messy so just lob it out of the window
Even if they have the responsibility to try to put it into the bin at the fast food place - if the bin is full they won't go to the other one 1 FOOT AWAY but just push it into the full one then let go and it drops onto the floor
Weird thing - at the local airport there is a place you can go to watch the planes land and take off
before the first lockdown they put some bins in - then during lockdown the bins were not being emptied - and a load of rubbish built up around them
eventually they just took the bins away - they amount of rubbish has reduced dramatically
people are just weird
Basically it is "why should I" - i.e I will just do what I want and I don't care what anyone else thinks - a lot actually thought this was a good character point
There is also the "what you gonna do about it?" concept
and the "they can;t do anything about it" and the "the can't prove it" version
Generally the idea of having any responsibility to go along with their precious "rights" is not acceptable to a lot of people - they only take the bits of modern society that they want - and ignore the rest
SO they don;t want old rubbish McBurgers in their car as it makes it smelly and messy so just lob it out of the window
Even if they have the responsibility to try to put it into the bin at the fast food place - if the bin is full they won't go to the other one 1 FOOT AWAY but just push it into the full one then let go and it drops onto the floor
Weird thing - at the local airport there is a place you can go to watch the planes land and take off
before the first lockdown they put some bins in - then during lockdown the bins were not being emptied - and a load of rubbish built up around them
eventually they just took the bins away - they amount of rubbish has reduced dramatically
people are just weird
Gillstay
Über Member
No I think its culture. There are many countries where this does not happen. look at Switzerland, they think the Germans are terrible ! They should be glad we are not their neighbours.I worked in a school for many years and saw this attitude as it formed
Basically it is "why should I" - i.e I will just do what I want and I don't care what anyone else thinks - a lot actually thought this was a good character point
There is also the "what you gonna do about it?" concept
and the "they can;t do anything about it" and the "the can't prove it" version
Generally the idea of having any responsibility to go along with their precious "rights" is not acceptable to a lot of people - they only take the bits of modern society that they want - and ignore the rest
SO they don;t want old rubbish McBurgers in their car as it makes it smelly and messy so just lob it out of the window
Even if they have the responsibility to try to put it into the bin at the fast food place - if the bin is full they won't go to the other one 1 FOOT AWAY but just push it into the full one then let go and it drops onto the floor
Weird thing - at the local airport there is a place you can go to watch the planes land and take off
before the first lockdown they put some bins in - then during lockdown the bins were not being emptied - and a load of rubbish built up around them
eventually they just took the bins away - they amount of rubbish has reduced dramatically
people are just weird
But then they do not get overly offended if you point out they have dropped litter or have left their car running for no reason.
HMS_Dave
Grand Old Lady
The question is posed by the OP. But, im saying there is no excuse for it so there is no reasonable answer these scumbags can give. They ruin the countryside because they are scum.
classic33
Leg End Member
Maybe the front bearings gave way, or the sub frame finally gave way.
Logbook updated only yesterday.
ebikeerwidnes
Guru
- Location
- Z’ha’dum
ACtually we are saying the same thing - the people I was talking about are reacting to their culture - mostly from their upbringing and parentingNo I think its culture. There are many countries where this does not happen. look at Switzerland, they think the Germans are terrible ! They should be glad we are not their neighbours.
They are not brought up - by parents and peer groups etc - to respect anything other than 'their rights' and people they are scared of
As a teacher in a rough secondary school , things started to get better when the discipline system was changed so that even small (ish) transgressions were jumped on and a clear system of repercussions was put in place and enforced at all times
But who will enforce anti littering laws with an over stretched Police and an historic attitude that "they can;t get you"
Mike Ayling
Veteran
- Location
- Melbourne Downunda
Here in Oz cost cutting local councils have removed bins from parks replacing them with little signs saying "please take your rubbish home" Doesn't work very well.
classic33
Leg End Member
People not wanting to pay for disposal and getting it done on the cheap, or free, have lead to the explosion in fly tipping.
I don't drive and have managed to get larger items to the recycling centres. Including other peoples large items, done for fun.
Folk don't like having to wait in a queue just to dump their rubbish.
