London City Police Clamping Down on RLJs?
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parnes said:
Really? There aren't many large roads, there are lots of alternative routes (back streets), there aren't many lorries... is it really the most dangerous?
(Granted, I've only ever cycled through it in the late evening or at the weekend when it's deserted, but there must be worse places...)
The City Police have been encouraging the public to complete ward policing surveys on-line and on paper:
Leading question? It's rather telling that the police put cycling down as the first box to tick.
Following complaints from friends, City Police removed the remains of a courier's bike which they had been using to highlight the dangers of jumping red lights at a road safety display.
Seb far from jumping the lights had been waiting for green when he was crushed by a lorry which had turned without checking its mirrors.
A typical example of the City Police ignoring the facts to justify their own simple prejudices.
Leading question? It's rather telling that the police put cycling down as the first box to tick.
Following complaints from friends, City Police removed the remains of a courier's bike which they had been using to highlight the dangers of jumping red lights at a road safety display.
Seb far from jumping the lights had been waiting for green when he was crushed by a lorry which had turned without checking its mirrors.
A typical example of the City Police ignoring the facts to justify their own simple prejudices.
The City Police regarded the twisted frame, which was crushed under the wheels of Terence Fallow’s tipper truck with Seb, as a suitable tool for the ‘re-education’ of cyclists.
This despite the fact that Seb was breaking no laws at the time of the collision.
In fact, it has been argued that if Seb had not stopped behind the stop line, or simply had run the light, he would still be alive today.
http://www.citycyclists.org.uk/
This despite the fact that Seb was breaking no laws at the time of the collision.
In fact, it has been argued that if Seb had not stopped behind the stop line, or simply had run the light, he would still be alive today.
http://www.citycyclists.org.uk/
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I saw a numpty stopped by the rozzers at Cannon St last night. The cyclist was going through the 'Yeah but, no but' routine as the officer took out his charge book. Bought a smile to my face. No sympathy whatsoever.
It's about time something was done - some cyclists think they can do as they damn well please which has turned us into hate figures in the eyes of many. We are never going to get the respect we deserve as equal road users while people continue to behave like that.
I too get annoyed about encroaching in ASLs and parking in cycle lanes, but I would argue that is irrelevant to the fact (two wrongs don't make a right), and think there's a difference between annoying and downright dangerous.
Yeah, RLJ'ing might save you a couple of minutes, but you're setting back the cause of cyclists by years.
It's about time something was done - some cyclists think they can do as they damn well please which has turned us into hate figures in the eyes of many. We are never going to get the respect we deserve as equal road users while people continue to behave like that.
I too get annoyed about encroaching in ASLs and parking in cycle lanes, but I would argue that is irrelevant to the fact (two wrongs don't make a right), and think there's a difference between annoying and downright dangerous.
Yeah, RLJ'ing might save you a couple of minutes, but you're setting back the cause of cyclists by years.
hackbike 666
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Origamist said:
They do?
I never noticed.
hackbike 666
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Origamist said:
Eh?
Im talking about police nicking mobile phone users.
Yes i'd probably be nicked if I did it but I don't see much evidence of plod doing it when they actually have a cyclist do it in full view and that applies to mobile phone users as well.
ChrisKH said:
The report says the most dangerous place for cyclists and pedestrians is London. Seventeen pedestrians per 100,000 people are killed in the capital, compared with a national average of 11.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/may/08/cycle-accidents-road-deaths-rise
I'm sure I read that The City has a terrible record, especially the bridges.
seen cops stopping people around Aldgate this week, it's all been cars
how do you crushed by a left turning lorry while waiting at a red light, this why the stop line is so far back from the junction itself
surely the courier must have been moving through the junction when the truck hit him, not waiting at the stop line
how do you crushed by a left turning lorry while waiting at a red light, this why the stop line is so far back from the junction itself
surely the courier must have been moving through the junction when the truck hit him, not waiting at the stop line
Tynan said:
On Monday 23rd February 9.30am, it will be exactly 5 years since London cycle courier Sebastian Lukomski was killed by a collision with a lorry. The collision was the result of the lorry driver failing to see Seb on his left as he turned from Upper Thames Street in to Queen Street Place. The driver pleaded guilty to careless driving, and was fined and had his licence endorsed.
22nd November, City of London Magistrates Court
Terence Mark Fallows, driver of the HGV that killed London bicycle messenger and LBMA member Sebastian Lukomski, today [Nov. 22, 2004] pleaded guilty of driving without due care & attention. He received a sentence of 6 endorsement points on his driving license. A total of 12 points results in disqualification. In addition, he was fined £1000 and ordered to pay £230 costs. -Buffalo Bill
