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Could say the exact same thing about experienced riders.It might stop them being a random liability? You know; the obvious stuff...
Could say the exact same thing about experienced riders.It might stop them being a random liability? You know; the obvious stuff...
Could say the exact same thing about experienced riders.
What do you suggest? Some more making stuff up as you go and hoping it sticks?
No I didn't say that.
A crash is always human error?
You're doing a Cunobelin: stop reading things selectively and forging a weak argument from that.
I hold many licence types for road vehicles or otherwise. My experience of those vehicles is irrelevant if the cause of an accident - was not me.
I also hold a race licence with Cycling Ireland - This did not prevent last nights crash. My experience could not have prevented last nights crash. Training could not have prevented last nights crash.
The guy I can over(whilst travelling arse over tit) Holds a CI race licence, is a Commisaire Driver for certain races - has years of experience and training. None of these could have prevented last nights crash.
The relatively inexperienced female on the front - ^ has a CI non-comp licence and her first paceline ride was last night. None of these contributed nor prevented the crash.
See what I'm saying? If you think a bit of plastic anyone can apply for(test required or otherwise) somehow has the magical ability to prevent accidents/crashes - or indeed if riding to a cafe every sunday with a club group will prevent anything - you need to take a step back or perhaps find another sport.
I never said the opposite. Skills are good to have, particularly from a confidence point of view - just don't expect them to make much - if any - difference in a race.
I'm all for preventing accidents and minimising risk. What I don't accept is that teaching someone how to ride in a group on a club run will have any bearing on what they do in a race. It certainly doesn't seem to be working for the pros, who still crash almost routinely. And if it doesn't work for them, what chance have the rest of us got?
DSA focuses on operating a car safely and operating it in traffic safely. However, put 25 cars on the starting grid at Silverstone (all with qualified MSA/FIA licence-holding drivers) and see what happens.
That's really a lack of common sense and sprinting for 39th position kind of stupidity that comes along with that.
I'm not even going to attempt translating this.i agree with everythin u have said so far it pretty much makes scence. but as for sprinting for 39 position being stupid??? i think not. if someone is willing to give their all, even if it is for 39th then so what??? how in the hell does that constitute stupidity. im sorry but i think ur comment is out of order. i would sprint for 100th place if that ment i gained a place or 2 to improve on my last event. i think u need to cum down to earth a little, so u may be good at events an finish in a position worthy of sprinting for (what ever the hell that may be in ur rule book) what about people like us who are just trying their best at each even trying to improve by any small amount. that isnt stupidity is hard work an determination an does not deserve ridicule but prais
i agree with everythin u have said so far it pretty much makes scence. but as for sprinting for 39 position being stupid??? i think not. if someone is willing to give their all, even if it is for 39th then so what??? how in the hell does that constitute stupidity. im sorry but i think ur comment is out of order. i would sprint for 100th place if that ment i gained a place or 2 to improve on my last event. i think u need to cum down to earth a little, so u may be good at events an finish in a position worthy of sprinting for (what ever the hell that may be in ur rule book) what about people like us who are just trying their best at each even trying to improve by any small amount. that isnt stupidity is hard work an determination an does not deserve ridicule but prais
It might stop them being a random liability? You know; the obvious stuff...
If it doesn't work for the pros then you obviously feel there's no hope at all, in which case, don't race.
What you're suggesting alternatively however is for newcomers not to bother at all with trying to minimise/reduce the risk because it's not 100% solid that you won't crash anyway, which I think is wrong and sends out entirely the wrong message. What do you make of the link I give, from the opinions of those at the higher end of the domestic racing scene?
They key word there is 'random' - you can't stop anyone being a random liability. Like I said earlier - all that is required is a momentary lapse of concentration. I've had them myself. Anyone that says they haven't is probably lying.