It is what the quote function is designed to do. If you don't like it don't make statements that can be quoted.
You question my knowledge of the English language while yourself not managing to write what you meant. You agreed with my previous post on threshold, but disagreed as to where the ride should be. You didn't bother to place the idea of threshold into your grand scheme of climbing hills. I don't believe at this point you have attempted to, therefore what you write and how you write it is open to interpretation. If I can't clearly see what you mean, then no newbie will ever figure it out.
So place the idea of threshold, which you agreed with. Into the idea of a newbie climbing a hill. Are they working at it? above it? or below it? One definitive answer please.
A product of the ability to quote,if it wasn't meant to be it wouldn't happen. I do believe that in the last thread we met you also questioned my understanding of the English language. I can tell you that since you are so concerned, English is my first language. I understand it pretty well after all these years speaking,reading and writing it.
Then why is it safer and less dangerous to climb hills instead of riding flat roads? Do I need to quote you again or would that break some Internet rule of yours that I'm not aware of?
I've been attentive all day.
I did pages ago. Here it is, remember?
Yes Scruff, stay in the gutter.
I am slightly bored yes.
Again you've chosen to miss the entire point. It's either choice, or a lack of understanding.
To split a point into two, and treat them as two distinctly different things, is not what the quotation function is for. If you believe that it is, you need to read a book or ask a friend. You don't do it to impart knowledge, you do it to be obtuse, facetious, and it just comes across as pretty contrived.
So. Even simpler for you. Three points.
1. Climbing hills will more naturally put you in a place that is improving fitness. You may ride at 7mph, and 2 months later ride at 10mph. However, there is no wimping out. You work the hill. At the point you get tired, you carry on working.
2. You have to thrash a bike in a tougher gear on the flat to approach anything like THRESHOLD pace. There is wimping out. If it hurts, people stop, coast, take a breather. There is a lot of concious thought and effort to maintain that intensity. Most will baulk at it.
3. Thrashing the bike at THRESHOLD pace on the flat road sees speeds north of 25mph and the distance covered at that speed is great. To do this involves fast, interactions with traffic moving at comparable speeds, throw in people, rain, and whatever other factors you care to list.
Theses are the foundations that I built my comment on. I don't think that anyone other than you needed such a systematic and thorough breakdown of it. I completely concurred with your original comment. That I quoted. In full. Endorsed it. I merely suggested, that as a beginner, the lower speeds (read slower, read slow) involved with hills, makes that a better choice for a beginner.
You can start pulling things apart to suggest what I did or didn't say, maybe conflate a few issues, divide some messages, and carry on believing your own messages (read 'Don't rise to it' becoming 'Stay in the gutter'), but it's beyond dull.
You often seem to raise a good point at times but you struggle so hard to build on that and flesh things out. It's kind of wrong to judge anyone based on an internet forum but I suspect that you're reasonably young, and haven't yet worked out that you don't have all the answers, and even more so, that that's ok.
Take it easy dude. I'm off home.
